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Multiple KMail POP3 accounts, as sub-folders to Inbox?

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rcameron
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    Hmmm ... a forum search on the terms:
    kmail multiple pop
    produced only seven hits, and none on topic for my problem.

This is my first attempt to configure KMail, and the Subject line summarizes what I'd like to do. The question to be answered follows the 'big red question mark' -- the rest is just supporting and background information.
    As background to my request, I had a set-up like this using StarOffice5.2's Mail module, and I'd like to have it again, if at all possible. I think that worked by everything going into one file, with the Inboxes for the individual addresses viewing the main file through filters. But the whole thing was done rather nicely, and it gave the appearance of having one server's incoming mail for each address segregated into separate locations.
What I've done so far: I've made separate POP Accounts for each E-mail address on the server named pop.sapo.pt. The Password for each is the same, of course. Only the Username differs, and if I'm correct, in KMail the term 'Username' is used to mean 'E-Mail address'.

Below the folder Inbox, I've created subfolders, with the provider's name (in this case, SAPO) and below that, subfolders with for each address on that provider, identified by the different address names.

The problem is, while the inbox directory is full (over 3,000 entries) I can't get anything to go into the subfolders! They are all empty.

? Is it possible to configure KMail so that the separate addresses on a single server will be directed to these folders, or does all incoming mail, regardless of address, go into one 'box' and then is made to appear in other folders, with filter settings? Knowing how it works in KMail would be a big help, so I'm not trying to do something that's impossible.

    In addition to this, next I would next like to have another folder for a different provider, coming from a different POP3 server. Then, I'd like to have subfolders off of that one, with the different addresses on that server, as well.

    I've started to set this up, but still these folders remain empty.

Please advise, or ask for more details, if the above doesn't make it clear what I'm (unsuccessfully!) trying to do, with KMail.

Haven't been able to find this documented in a step-by-step fashion, but if it is, a link would be most appreciated.


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I'm not sure I fully understand your question.

So you have configured multiple POP3 resources in KMail?
You should be able to specify a particular/different folder for each one in its settings (KMail's "Settings" menu->Configure KMail->Accounts->Receiving, select the resource and click on "Edit").

If you want another top-level folder (at the same level as "Local Folders"), just create a new "maildir" resource and choose a different folder on your hard disk where it stores its mails.

You can reach the filter settings in the "Settings" menu too.
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wolfi323 wrote:I'm not sure I fully understand your question.

Even so, you're giving me helpful advice. Thanks for reading through the lengthy background on what I'm trying to set-up. :)

So you have configured multiple POP3 resources [i.e., POP3 servers] in KMail? [Yes. So far, there are two (there will be more): pop.sapo.pt and pop.yandex.com].
You should be able to specify a particular/different [inbox] folder for each one in its settings (KMail's "Settings" menu->Configure KMail->Accounts->Receiving, select the resource [i.e., POP3 server] and click on "Edit").


??? Please take a look the above quote, and see if what I've inserted [my 'edits'] in square-brackets leave your directions still saying what you originally intended. This will let me know that I am understanding it correctly. If not, please correct me.

??? Will the end result of following your directions in the above quote -- be having a distinct, separate inbox for each POP3 server? And if yes, then would the subfolders below this inbox be populated by filtering them, for each different address on that server?

    Now, this is starting to look like how StarOffice Mail worked 'under the hood' -- again, if I understand you correctly.

If you want another top-level folder [which would be named "Local Folders" or, would its name be "inbox"?] (at the same level as "Local Folders"), just create a new "maildir" resource and choose a different folder on your hard disk where it stores its mails.

??? Please clarify why one would "want" to do this, making "another top-level folder". Is this the way getting different inbox folders for each POP3 server? If 'yes' then I understand -- if something else, please tell me the correct reason for doing this.

Even though I have a few 'loose ends' -- as noted by the bracketed edits --I'll see how for I can get, while waiting for your clarification. Thanks again!


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wolfi323
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rcameron wrote:
wolfi323 wrote:So you have configured multiple POP3 resources [i.e., POP3 servers] in KMail?
Yes. So far, there are two (there will be more): pop.sapo.pt and pop.yandex.com].

Well, the name shouldn't matter, but if you added two different POP3 accounts, it should be possible to store their mails in different folders.

You should be able to specify a particular/different [inbox] folder for each one in its settings (KMail's "Settings" menu->Configure KMail->Accounts->Receiving, select the resource [i.e., POP3 server] and click on "Edit").

Each POP3 account only has one inbox folder. And POP3 always downloads the mails to your computer.
You can specify in the POP3 resource's settings in which local folder on your system the mail should be stored.

??? Will the end result of following your directions in the above quote -- be having a distinct, separate inbox for each POP3 server?

Every POP3 server/account has a distinct, separate inbox. But if you mean to store the downloaded mails in distinct, separate folders, then yes this is possible.

And if yes, then would the subfolders below this inbox be populated by filtering them, for each different address on that server?

You can choose any target folder for filters.

But you seem to have some misconceptions on how email (and POP3 in particular) works.
First, you have a POP3 resource. This downloads all new emails from some email server/account.
Second, those downloaded mails have to be stored somewhere on your hard disk. For this you have a maildir resource (the default one is called "Local Folders") which stores mails as files on your hard disk, and can have as many sub folders as you like.
You can store the mails of all your POP3 resources in different subfolders of the existing "Local Folders" (or even in the same subfolder, although that's not what you want), or you can even have different such maildir resources, stored in different locations on your hard disk, each with its own set of subfolders.

If you want another top-level folder [which would be named "Local Folders" or, would its name be "inbox"?]

You can name it whatever you want.
But a maildir resource gets its own "inbox" subfolder created automatically. You don't have to store the mails of a particular POP3 account in an "inbox" folder though.
Note again, the "Local Folders" are totally independent of your POP3 mail accounts.

(at the same level as "Local Folders"), just create a new "maildir" resource and choose a different folder on your hard disk where it stores its mails.

??? Please clarify why one would "want" to do this, making "another top-level folder". Is this the way getting different inbox folders for each POP3 server? If 'yes' then I understand -- if something else, please tell me the correct reason for doing this.

Yes.
You obviously cannot have _two_ subfolders called "inbox" in one resource, unless they are subfolders of different subfolders.

Actually, such a maildir resource is not much different than a directory on your hard disk.

If you are in doubt, just add a maildir resource to see how that would look like (and choose a different folder than the default, otherwise it will show the same content as the default one). You can always remove/delete it again afterwards.
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:) Thanks for all this.

I'm going to print it out so I can 'wrap my head' around the terminology. I have been using E-mail for a long time without realizing how it works, but your tutorial will remedy that.

I'm trying this out on my less-important mailboxes first, because of my being afraid that I'll accidentally let the client pull everything off the server, and then make some crazy mistake that could delete it -- or make it difficult to access.

This is the reason for my being cautious and wanting to understand what it happening.

I do want to clear the server of most everything that's now there, but I'd like to make sure this happens -- when I'm prepared for it!

OK, now to work ... 8)


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