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Kmail reply styling

Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:42 am
Hello everyone. I would like to know if somebody can give me a hint what I can do about my problem.

I have a new email address hosted at a real webspace provider (no free mail) and everything works great with Kmail. I have read a lot about Email reply styling.
So in the beginning the reply to an email was always below the quoted text.
But it seems that a lot of programs and other email clients using the response at top of the layout.

So basically my replies are messed up in kmail. Personally I also prefer that the new text (reply) is below the old text. So you can read everything from top to bottom (kmail standard).
But when somebody writes his messages to the top and I write everything below its getting messed up.

So I checked gmail configuration. And it seems that gmail also uses the top reply and bottom quote but gmail recognizes via subject and the sent time which is the last message and in gmail control center the email history is automatically sorted from top to bottom.

So I would like to ask if it is possible that Kmail can recognize this too? Or is the only solution to switch to bottom quote style?

thanks for you input

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Re: Kmail reply styling

Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:31 am
I don't think the email parsing (which, by the way, is a hard problem) in KMail is sophisticated enough to detect this (or if it is, it's not exposed through the UI). So your last proposal seems the only valid solution for now.


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Re: Kmail reply styling

Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:47 pm
Thank you very much for your reply.

The behavior of kmail seems strange to me. The manual seems a little bit outdated.
So I turned on the bottom quote style and I'm writing at the top right now.

But I have no idea how this threading works.

I write an email and get a reply ( this is a new thread). Then I write message C but when I get a reply D, kmail makes a new thread.
So I used the new thread to reply with message E and the when he writes message F it gets appended to the original thread.

The next messages are added to the original thread as subcategory.

But why do I have always 2 threads. One Subject one thread. That would make sense. But the way it is at the moment everything is mixed up.
Does somebody here knows how I can configure it properly. Help would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Kmail reply styling

Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:58 pm
So I just want to share my experience now. Nowadays it seems that there is not actual standard for email writing. So each program has its own behavior. Especially all those free email providers have all different stylings.

Kmail has some strange behavior with the standard values.
In the composer menue the term
Code: Select all
%OFROMNAME
was missing. There was always
Code: Select all
you wrote
instead of the one you replied to. Thats the reason why Kmail does not recognize different authors of the email.

The best result for styling the reply is above and you quote everything from the old email.

Before looks like this.

Code: Select all
here comes your reply

On Wednesday 30 March 2016 19:31:54 somebody wrote:
> Quoted
> Text
> from email.


Best results with all free email providers are when you also quote the date.

Code: Select all
here comes your reply

> On Wednesday 30 March 2016 19:31:54 somebody wrote:
> Quoted
> Text
> from email.



This does not work very good with gmail (you can use plain text of course) but far better with gmx mail, hotmail and apple mail.

So if you want to use this styling this is what you need in you composer reply styling:

Code: Select all
%REM="Default reply template"%-
%CURSOR

> On %ODATE %OTIMELONG %OFROMNAME wrote:
%QUOTE


Maybe it's useful for somebody.

greetings


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