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KMail wizards gone

Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:27 pm
As of yesterday's 2016-12-16 update from Mint 18, all of the wizards are gone in KMail. I found this out trying to set up bogo filter on a new machine. You "could" manually create each of the filter steps with edit filters, but the wizard which made it easy is gone.
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Re: KMail wizards gone

Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:12 pm
Check if you have kdepim-addons up to date.


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Re: KMail wizards gone

Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:03 pm
einar wrote:Check if you have kdepim-addons up to date.


According to Mint update utility I'm completely up to date.
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Re: KMail wizards gone

Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:13 am
In my opinion this however shows that there are bits either not installed, or not properly built. Can you run "akonadictl restart" in a terminal, open KMail, then paste the terminal output on a pastebin and post the link here?


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Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:54 pm
einar wrote:In my opinion this however shows that there are bits either not installed, or not properly built. Can you run "akonadictl restart" in a terminal, open KMail, then paste the terminal output on a pastebin and post the link here?


http://pastebin.com/FJUEuHwb
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Re: KMail wizards gone

Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:18 am
This screams like a packaging problem here (I triple checked my setup and I have all these bits here). Would you mind asking also in the Mint forums if anyone has this problem? Just to see if we can isolate the issue.

(unfortunately I don't run MInt so I am a bit ignorant about how to do packaging)


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Re: KMail wizards gone

Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:24 pm
einar wrote:This screams like a packaging problem here (I triple checked my setup and I have all these bits here). Would you mind asking also in the Mint forums if anyone has this problem? Just to see if we can isolate the issue.

(unfortunately I don't run MInt so I am a bit ignorant about how to do packaging)


Mint is just a YABU (Yet Another uBUntu) so it is Debian packaging instead of RPM hell.

I asked the the question here: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic. ... 6&t=235925
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Re: KMail wizards gone

Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:07 pm
rolandh wrote:
einar wrote:Check if you have kdepim-addons up to date.


According to Mint update utility I'm completely up to date.


Better question is, do you have it installed?

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apt-cache policy kdepim-addons


In my updated Mint 18 KDE test VM, I have the Anti-spam and Anti-Virus menus available.


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Re: KMail wizards gone

Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:58 pm
acheronuk wrote:
rolandh wrote:
einar wrote:Check if you have kdepim-addons up to date.


According to Mint update utility I'm completely up to date.


Better question is, do you have it installed?

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apt-cache policy kdepim-addons


In my updated Mint 18 KDE test VM, I have the Anti-spam and Anti-Virus menus available.


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As did I. That is how I know they are missing because I had been using them so yes, everything was installed. Then came the update after having used KMail for several weeks of regular email. Now they are gone. If it was removed, the update removed it.

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roland@roland-HP-Compaq-8100-Elite-SFF-PC ~ $ apt-cache policy kdepim-addons
kdepim-addons:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 16.04.3-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa62
  Version table:
     16.04.3-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa62 500
        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
roland@roland-HP-Compaq-8100-Elite-SFF-PC ~ $


Then again, I don't put much weight in that. Why? Well, according to the software manager kdepim is not installed

Sorry for the url links, but I'm not hand editing down to 720 pixels

http://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/kdepim-software-list.png

Yet I have kmail

http://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/email-shot.png

Because it was "supposedly" all bundled with Kontact

http://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/kontact-list.png

Whatever "this" is it certainly happened with the update. If you do a base ISO install and configure KMail you have the wizards. The big update which happened a couple of days ago took them away. I do not know if it has anything to do with the update coming out after KMail had been configured and used for a while or if it will nuke an empty/unconfigured KMail the same way. I even re-installed Kontact on the laptop, un-installed, rebooted, installed, rebooted. No wizards.
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Re: KMail wizards gone  Topic is solved

Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:33 am
You need to install kdepim-addons

rolandh wrote:As did I. That is how I know they are missing because I had been using them so yes, everything was installed. Then came the update after having used KMail for several weeks of regular email. Now they are gone. If it was removed, the update removed it.


Would be odd, as I tested the updates at least a dozen times and not once did they get removed. But odd things happen and it is impossible to test every combination of installed software for unusual occurrences.


rolandh wrote:Then again, I don't put much weight in that. Why? Well, according to the software manager kdepim is not installed

Sorry for the url links, but I'm not hand editing down to 720 pixels

http://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/kdepim-software-list.png

Yet I have kmail


Well, the kde-pim package there is a metapackage to install the whole of the KDEPIM suite. You can have individual parts like kmail installed without having that metapackage installed


rolandh wrote:Because it was "supposedly" all bundled with Kontact


Again, kontact being installed is not a hard depend on all the KDEPIM suite. Most of the separate programs are "recommends".
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Re: KMail wizards gone

Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:04 pm
I installed kdepim-addons on my laptop this morning. The wizards came back after rebooting.

The update removed this package without replacing it. The problem manifested itself on 3 machines after the update. My desktop, laptop and netbook. All are running 64-bit Mint 18 KDE . . . though I'm thinking of moving the netbook to Puppy or something as it is only a dual core with 8G of RAM. Mint 18 is too heavy for it. Needs at least a quad core to run.

Thanks to all for their assistance.
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Re: KMail wizards gone

Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:23 pm
I posted this in another thread but wanted to copy it here.

Test 2: On desktop I uninstalled Kontact and KMail via the software manager then hand deleted the following files:

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After that rebooted then installed Kontact and KMail via the software manager and rebooted again. Re-added Kontact to main menu then started it. Was walked through establishing an identity but when Kontact started it had 2 IMAP accounts configured. One, I presume to be the new one because it had no mail, just the directory tree, did not have the "spam" folder. The other did. I deleted the first IMAP account and renamed the second.

NOTE: The wizards are once again gone. Will add this info to thread about wizards as well.

It appears when you remove Kontact it removes the add-ons but they aren't automatically installed. This is what probably befell the update.


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