I like kate, but it has problems. Sometimes it does not save files whether I do ' f a,' toolbar save, or ' f a: overwrite.' It has happened several times over the years: like I save some code in it in files not open elsewhere and then try to recompile it in a terminal, which maybe returns the same error. Then, often 'more' or 'pico' show the old files, and when I re-save in kate once or more (after using 'more' or not saving in pico) and try to re-compile or re-check, nothing has changed. Then Kate does not save again until I close it or KDE (I am not sure which.)

Also, sometimes my unicode textfiles are corrupt in kate. I think it is because I accidentally open them with kwrite or kedit, which might not do unicode or might be configured to save differently. How can I remove those from konqueror's 'open with' menu, or at least move them down and make them all save the same way?

Other things about kate are that it is nice one can have tabs at the top rather than hidden at the side, but when one moves to another tab, it does not do it in order: it goes to a somewhat random tab. I guess it is the order opened or something, not the order displayed.

It would be nice if I could get rid of that sidebar that I never use now that I found non-hidden tabs.... It is extremely distracting, but kate needs to be as non-distracting as Emacs and RHIDE/SETedit.

Other extremely distracting things about kate also related to it not being able to look like it is in a terminal, or even just to run it in one without a pop-up--maybe by default--are that 'toobar: text position: text only' is not implemented, and there are other unhideable icons and lines, and the menus and scrollbar are not reducible to console format: menus are italicized and have distracting underlines. I guess some of these things are about kde in general.

Kate is my favourite editor besides RHIDE/SETedit, but if I learned Emacs better it would be my favourite.

As i can't reproduce your problems with saving or switching between tabs, which version of Kate/KDE are you using? And how do you run Kate? Inside KDE or from another desktop environment?

neverendingo wrote:As i can't reproduce your problems with saving or switching between tabs, which version of Kate/KDE are you using? And how do you run Kate? Inside KDE or from another desktop environment?

I know not where you can run kate besides X: I currently run Slamd64 12.1: KDE3.5.9. I would upgrade but must reinstall Slamd64... IIRC kate sometimes did not save files on Slackware. As for tabs, did you go 'settings: configure kate: tab bar extensions: check sort files alphabetically?'

--David

dchmelik wrote:
I know not where you can run kate besides X:

No, i meant something like gnome or xfce or something

I currently run Slamd64 12.1: KDE3.5.9. I would upgrade but must reinstall Slamd64... IIRC kate sometimes did not save files on Slackware. As for tabs, did you go 'settings: configure kate: tab bar extensions: check sort files alphabetically?'

--David

Ok, i am using 4.1.2 here. But for the saving problem, i never saw that in 3.5.9, too.
Also, for the tab bar extension, i don't have that on my 3.5.9 version (kubuntu).
So i can't say much more about that, sorry. Someone with slackware insights needs to step up, i guess.

But for your wish to hide the sidebar, try this (words may vary):
Windows -> Toolbar Views -> Hide Navigation ( Alt + Ctrl + SHIFT + F )

You can change the associations by going in Konqueror: Settings > Configure Konqueror. Select 'File Associations'. Expand 'text', then select 'plain'. Use the Move Up / Down, remove buttons to change your associations. You can repeat this for any other file extension you are having problems with. This will change the Default opening application, and the 'Open with...' menu.

[...]Also, for the tab bar extension, i don't have that on my 3.5.9 version (kubuntu).
So i can't say much more about that, sorry. Someone with slackware insights needs to step up, i guess.

But for your wish to hide the sidebar, try this (words may vary):
Windows -> Toolbar Views -> Hide Navigation ( Alt + Ctrl + SHIFT + F )

Apparently I have tried that, but when the sidebar disappears, so does the 'status bar,' (i.e bottom bar,) which I do use.

bcooksley wrote:You can change the associations by going in Konqueror: Settings > Configure Konqueror. Select 'File Associations'. Expand 'text', then select 'plain'. Use the Move Up / Down, remove buttons to change your associations. You can repeat this for any other file extension you are having problems with. This will change the Default opening application, and the 'Open with...' menu.

Thanks; I guess I have done that, but not globally (which would be nice) for text, and I noticed an 'embedding' section....[hr]

neverendingo wrote:

dchmelik wrote:
I know not where you can run kate besides X:

No, i meant something like gnome or xfce or something

I currently run Slamd64 12.1: KDE3.5.9. I would upgrade but must reinstall Slamd64... IIRC kate sometimes did not save files on Slackware. As for tabs, did you go 'settings: configure kate: tab bar extensions: check sort files alphabetically?'

--David

Ok, i am using 4.1.2 here. But for the saving problem, i never saw that in 3.5.9, too.
Also, for the tab bar extension, i don't have that on my 3.5.9 version (kubuntu).
So i can't say much more about that, sorry. Someone with slackware insights needs to step up, i guess.

But for your wish to hide the sidebar, try this (words may vary):
Windows -> Toolbar Views -> Hide Navigation ( Alt + Ctrl + SHIFT + F )

i am a primarily slackware using person, and while i'm currently on kde-3.5.10 from slackware-current not the 3.5.9 that ships with slackware-12.1, i've not seen or experienced this behavior where kate would not save. i usually use vim, but kate is my 'default' text editor for like quickly editing files in an X session. i do have the tab enabled as well.
i'm not sure what to tell but maybe try executing `kate` from a konsole to see if it dumps any output reasons of why it couldn't save the file

I've seen similar behaviour from KATE (not saving) in KDE Plasma 4 & 5 (P4,P5, or as some operating systems, OS, I use name the packages, KDE4,KDE5, etc.)

Thanks to everyone whom helped. Kwrite/KATE are pretty excellent in KDEP5.