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Does Discover have any settings, especially for updates?

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MRK0017
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Hello, noob here. I've been using Mint for a while and I enjoyed its customizable update manager. Now I'm trying KDE Neon (latest version as of right now, 5.16), and it seems like there are literally no settings for Discover. I googled for a while but I can't find a definitive answer. Is there any way to configure this thing, especially when it comes to when to check for updates, and when to display the notification? I'd like to configure it so that it only checks once a month or something like that. One of the reasons why I'm trying to say goodbye to W10 is forced updates so this is kind of a big deal to me. I have other questions on how to manage packages and updates but this may be a good starting point for now.
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Discover is a sort of universal tool, cross-platform, if you will, so it does not itself have such a distro-specific tool . While Neon doesn't ship with it, you can install Ubuntu's software-properties-kde package, and you will get this Ubuntu-specific config tool which will add these tools to Discover, Muon, or Synaptic, and also can be run standalone.

You''ll need to use the command line or a full package manager, as this won't show up in the Discover software store.


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Thank you. I'm still in the process of understanding how this works exactly. So what you're telling me is that there's no real difference if I use Discover or Synaptic or whatever, because they will all pull updates from the same repositories, makes sense. Considering I'd like to have finer control over the updates, which program would you recommend me to use instead of Discover? But I assume that if I uninstall Discover I will not get the update notification on the desktop from the widget, is that right?

Anyway, I also noticed that Discover doesn't show the PPAs I added, and it lacks a graphical interface to add PPAs like I could do on Mint. Which one would you recommend me to use if I want these features? Right now I'll have to reinstall because I broke it by messing with the gpu drivers. :'(
I'll try to add the package you told me about and see what happens...
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The package I mentioned has a section to add PPAs, so you are good there.

However, in this case it is inmsho far, far simpler to use the command line to add a PPA. Each one has a homepage that gives the details on how to add one (or a project may gives these on their website), and it is a one-line command you copy into the terminal. I find this much easier than digging into Discover, or Muon, or Synaptic, drilling down to the Software Sources tool, then going to the correct tab , and then adding the info, blah blah....

Synaptic is a good GUI package manager. Muon is good as well, and is a KDE program, but it is not quite as solid as Synaptic.


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claydoh wrote:The package I mentioned has a section to add PPAs, so you are good there.

However, in this case it is inmsho far, far simpler to use the command line to add a PPA. Each one has a homepage that gives the details on how to add one (or a project may gives these on their website), and it is a one-line command you copy into the terminal. I find this much easier than digging into Discover, or Muon, or Synaptic, drilling down to the Software Sources tool, then going to the correct tab , and then adding the info, blah blah....

Synaptic is a good GUI package manager. Muon is good as well, and is a KDE program, but it is not quite as solid as Synaptic.


Does software-properties-kde overrides whatever setting Discover uses by default? So if under the Updates tab I uncheck Check for Updates, will it never check for updates again until I do it manually right?
Also in the Updates tab, under Neon Updates everything is unchecked and it can't be checked, this makes me wonder if this component actually does anything. I'm pretty sure I had it unchecked and I got an update notification yesterday, but maybe I had to reboot or something or it was already cached.
As for the other things in there, such as Authentication and the default repositories, I better not touch anything because I assume that's how it validates the repositories and where it actually gets the updated packages.

Anyway there is something that bothers me about Discover as a whole, this program feels like a beta with limited\broken functionality. I wanted to install this https://github.com/KDE/wacomtablet to use my tablet, so I searched for wacom, tablet and so on in Discovery, found some things but they didn't work at all. I searched for wacom in Muon and I found the package by the name kde-config-tablet, installed and worked perfectly. On top of that, when I removed the broken "apps" that Discovery installed, I got some disconcerning alerts about modules that would be uninstalled along with the apps (see here https://ibb.co/XVxhfqH), I still clicked OK just to see if it would actually cripple my system, but from what I can tell nothing happened. Also from Discover there doesn't seem to be a way to see the package names, dependencies and so on. If I just remove it will Muon notify me of eventual updates, and again would software-properties-kde allow me to configure the update frequency?

Sorry for all these questions, I'm very grateful for your attention.


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