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Robert Leleu
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No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:55 pm
On a MATE Mint16 64bit I run project-neon in order to use the unstable Kexi.

One month ago, it used to run smoothly with a menu desktop. Then I tried uninstall the wallet, and now I have a KDE kickoff which doesn't display anything when requested......
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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:07 am
What is the content of /etc/xdg/menus/?


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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:40 am
thanks for your help

leleu@leleu-portable:/etc/xdg/menus > ls -l
total 36
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 mars 4 22:36 applications-merged
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 janv. 14 10:02 debian-menu.menu -> /var/lib/menu-xdg/menus/debian-menu.menu
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10920 déc. 6 00:27 kde4-applications.menu
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 279 juin 28 2013 kde-information.menu
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3848 oct. 14 2013 mate-applications.menu
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2977 oct. 14 2013 matecc.menu
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 487 oct. 14 2013 mate-screensavers.menu
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1392 oct. 14 2013 mate-settings.menu
leleu@leleu-portable:/etc/xdg/menus >

and, perhaps more significant

leleu@leleu-portable:/opt/project-neon/etc/xdg/menus > ls -l
total 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10795 avril 25 01:05 applications.menu
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 279 févr. 13 11:40 kde-information.menu
leleu@leleu-portable:/opt/project-neon/etc/xdg/menus >

I had a look at this applications.menu. It seems normal.
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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:52 pm
In your Neon desktop, what is the value of "echo $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS"?


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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:02 pm
When in MATE session

leleu@leleu-portable:~ > echo $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS
/etc/xdg/xdg-mate:/etc/xdg
leleu@leleu-portable:~ >

When in Neon session there is no accessible terminal
in the ALT+F2 window or in tty2 echo $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS returns no echo

and,...... the ALT+F2 window allows to open the SaystemActivity window, and I saw there about 30 occurences of akonadi-agent-launcher
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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:02 am
In Alt + F2, try running "konsole" and executing the echo command in that terminal. Also, is the window which opens decorated? If it is not, does running kwin --replace in KRunner (Alt + F2) help?


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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:48 pm
Launching Konsole from «ALT+F2» just shows a dangling terminal icon for some seconds
Same for Dolfin and Konqueror from the task bar
The contextual menu of the task bar gives «Add widget» . Widgets are shown in a black window, but doesn't add when required

Launching «kwin --replace» just close the window

I don't know enough KDE to appreciate if the «ALT+F2» window is decorated
(it seems to be since thera are «?x» icons attached

I installed mint-meta-kde, in the hope to «see» KDE, but this didn't add a KDE entry in the connection window
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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:32 am
The KRunner / Alt + F2 window is special - it is always undecorated. It sounds like your system has some deeper problems if Konsole, Konqueror and Dolphin are unable to launch. Could you try running Konsole from a virtual terminal, as follows?
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export DISPLAY=:0.0
konsole


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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:23 am
I had to install konsole, and when launched it just wrote (twice)
QDBusCommunication: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.

I do agree that the problem is not only the absence of menu. There is also all these akonadi tasks.
But the problem is only with Neon Session

Would it not be simpler to uninstall Project-Neon (I did it twice), to clean any clue of this project (I tried but presumably did not succeed), and to have a new installation of project-neon ?

As a last resort I install a new Mint17 (to replace 16) by the end of may, but I'm afraid to loose the sound.....
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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:09 am
It may be worth trying a new user - unless there have been substantial changes to the packages recently then i'm not sure a reinstallation will be able to help resolve the issue.


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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:40 am
bcooksley wrote:It may be worth trying a new user

Good idea, that's always useful test.


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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:05 pm
Indeed a new user opens Neon OK

What if I substitute the ~/.project-neon-kde repertory of this new user to my own ?
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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:25 pm
It's safe to try this.


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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:25 pm
So, I substituted the ~/.project-neon-kde repertory of this new user to my own, and I receive an error

call to Iusertemp failed (temporary directories full ?) Check your installation

which is curious since
gparted shows :
sda1 (boot) 64.74 Gio free
sda5 (swap)
sdb1 (datas) 218,79 Gio free

but following a «google» suggestion I erase ~/.project-neon-kde repertory and got a correct start of KDE

however the 2.8.2 Kexi in Project-neon doesn't recognise the kexi files.....

then I installed project-neon-calligra, and found kexi 2.9, able to open my ex, which is able to open existing datas, which is exactly what I want.

So now anything is OK. Thanks for your help.
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Re: No KDE menu (in project-neon)

Thu May 01, 2014 10:43 am
Not a problem. In general, after copying over a ~/.kde4/ or equivalent directory, you need to remove the socket-*, cache-* and tmp-* symlinks from it - otherwise it will attempt to use the corresponding directories of the user they're being copied from.


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