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Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:49 pm
Bonjour,

With Windows Explorer I used to create ZIP files to send photos and large files to other persons: I selected several folders / files, and, with a right click, I chose Send to ... / Compressed folder (Envoyer vers ... / Dossier compressé in french).
How can I do the same with Dolphin ? My problem is that the ZIP files generated with Dolphin can't be used with Windows Explorer ! In all cases it is a gzip file.

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:15 pm
do you have the zip package installed?

to compress and attach to an email instead of just compress try http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Co ... ent=102825 (ps I have not tested)


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Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:09 pm
The Kubuntu is using a patch from the Debian and it has some side effects ;)

Few bug reports:
Ark fails to produce zip archive instead making gzip with the zip suffix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1388532
use_libarchive_for_zip_files causes problems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1404239
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Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:27 pm
I thank you both for yours answers.
google01103:
I have been discovering Kubuntu for a few months now, I no longer use Windows XP.
But I am far away of being an expert: I don't know how to check whether I have the zip package installed or not.

The zip files I currently send have a size of 10 to 500 MB, I can't send them by email with Thunderbird through my email account.

Considering the bugs reports indicated by Rog131, are these bugs the problem ? Are they being corrected soon ?
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Considering the possibility of sending an email with an attached file from the context menu of Dolphin, I would be happy to be able to do it like I did it with Windows Explorer. I must go back to a topic I initiated with that subject ...

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Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:07 pm
I don't use Kubuntu but I think a suitable command would be
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 dpkg -s zip

if installed you get a list describing the package contents, if no response that its not installed

You should also be able to see installed packages in whatever software package manager you use (Muon or Apper or ?)

if its the bug Rog131 refered to then you need to follow it on Ubuntu and/or Debian because its their bug not KDE's

re size of attachments - you should not add new questions to a non related thread but open a new on in the appropriate forum, in this case probably Network & Internet but I'm not sure whose problem that is as your isp could be limiting the size of attachments. Can you send attachment of size < 10meg? Could you when using XP? Are you seeing any error messages in T-bird?


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Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:13 pm
Thank you google01103 for your answer.

With Konsole:

papipio@Pio-Kubuntu:~$ dpkg -s zip
Package: zip
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: utils
Installed-Size: 590
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Architecture: i386
Multi-Arch: foreign
Version: 3.0-8
Depends: libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.7)
Recommends: unzip
Description: Archiver for .zip files
This is InfoZIP's zip program. It produces files that are fully
compatible with the popular PKZIP program; however, the command line
options are not identical. In other words, the end result is the same,
but the methods differ. :-)
.
This version supports encryption.
Original-Maintainer: Santiago Vila <sanvila@debian.org>
Homepage: http://www.info-zip.org/Zip.html
papipio@Pio-Kubuntu:~$

So I guess it's OK, ??
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Yes, for Thunderbird I'll go to another topic.

For large files attached I know I have problems if email is larger than 10 MB (<-- my ISP or my contacts' ISP, I don't remember). So I never attach files larger than 6 MB, the email is ~30% larger than the files.
I never have any problem with emails < 10 MB with Kubuntu + TB, as I never had with Windows XP + TB.

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Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:07 pm
there may be a couple of workaround for your zip issue

1) if comfortable with command line you can run the zip command directly, Google'ing will show examples and the help is available with
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zip --help

2) install peazip a gui archiver which will add right menu items in Dolphin for compressing, if the issue is a Debian Ark one this should be a work around. Unfortunately it does not appear to be in the ppa's so you'll need to download it from their website (you'll want the deb version, it's 32bit so there could be bumps if you run 64bit - Kubuntu would be best place to search about issues if encountered)


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Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:00 am
Rog131 wrote:The Kubuntu is using a patch from the Debian and it has some side effects ;)

Few bug reports:
Ark fails to produce zip archive instead making gzip with the zip suffix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1388532
use_libarchive_for_zip_files causes problems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1404239


I was not aware of this potential problem until reading about it here. But FWIW, I happened to have cause to send a ZIP-format archive file to a Windows-using friend of mine just a few days ago. The archive contained about two dozen files in three folders, and the overall (compressed) archive size was about 1.6 MB. Now, because I was unaware of this potential issue, I did not specifically ask him if the received file seemed to be in "zip" or "gzip" format; but he WAS able to use the files, and he made no comments to the effect of having trouble extracting them from the archive -- which implies it was indeed "zip".

The archive in question was created using "Ark" from within Dolphin (Right-click --> "Compress" --> "As ZIP Archive"), using Dolphin v4.13.3 and Ark v2.19 under Kubuntu 14.04.2.

So at least it CAN work correctly.

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Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:14 am
Papipio wrote:Thank you google01103 for your answer.

With Konsole:

papipio@Pio-Kubuntu:~$ dpkg -s zip
Package: zip
Status: install ok installed

(snip)
papipio@Pio-Kubuntu:~$

So I guess it's OK, ??


The InfoZIP package does the underlying "grunt work"; but for ease of use I would strongly suggest that you make sure you have "Ark" installed. I am fairly confident that this is a standard part of the KDE install under Kubuntu; but you can check easily enough by clicking on your Application Launcher Menu (the blue "K" symbol in the lower-left corner; "Start Menu" in Windows-speak),and then checking under "Utilities" ("Ark" should be listed at/near the top).

Yes, for Thunderbird I'll go to another topic.

For large files attached I know I have problems if email is larger than 10 MB


That is near-certainly a policy limitation imposed by either your mail service provider, or that of your recipient; and 10 MB is probably about as generous as you're going to find on a typical ISP-supplied mail account. There are specialty mail service providers which offer much larger limits; but that won't do you any good if your recipient's service provider still blocks anything over 10 MB.
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Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:37 am
Weary1 wrote:The InfoZIP package does the underlying "grunt work"; but for ease of use I would strongly suggest that you make sure you have "Ark" installed. I am fairly confident that this is a standard part of the KDE install under Kubuntu; but you can check easily enough by clicking on your Application Launcher Menu (the blue "K" symbol in the lower-left corner; "Start Menu" in Windows-speak),and then checking under "Utilities" ("Ark" should be listed at/near the top).


unless of course there a known bug, quoting from the 3rd post in this thread
Rog131 wrote:The Kubuntu is using a patch from the Debian and it has some side effects ;)

Few bug reports:
Ark fails to produce zip archive instead making gzip with the zip suffix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1388532
use_libarchive_for_zip_files causes problems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1404239


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Re: ZIP files

Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:42 am
Check this one.......7-Zip 9.20

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Re: ZIP files

Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:15 am
Thank you manlypullock for your suggestion.
As I had some problems with Kubuntu, I installed and now use Mageia Linux ...

I just installed j7z from the Mageia software library, I'll try it.

Pierre


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