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medmedin
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Why would you limit linux user ?

Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:12 pm
Who is this genius who decided to limit a linux user by not running gui app as root, there is some already kde apps like kde partition manager, sources gui in discover that needs to be run as root but it has really ugly theme.
Why kde runs toward limitation while linux is user freedom ?
We need a solution that copy user theme to apps that runs as root to have consistent desktop !
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Why wouldn’t you search for an answer in the Internet first? :)
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Gallaecio wrote:Why wouldn’t you search for an answer in the Internet first? :)


I searched but there is no way that Dolphin access /root folder, with MATE I was able for many years to modify root files with Caja without any problems, why are you turning things so complex ?
You don't permit Dolphin to access root while I can open terminal and modify everything as root ? it is like you fix the window in your house to not allow thieves while the you let the main door open ? !
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How do you like this bright white window over the dark theme ? Pretty ? No it hurts my eyes a lot !
https://imgur.com/b0SnxWe
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Re: Why would you limit linux user ?

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:16 am
Gallaecio wrote:Why wouldn’t you search for an answer in the Internet first? :)


cause there is no adding root actions back to dolphin and i'm sure you were aware of that prior to asking your question.


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Re: Why would you limit linux user ?

Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:28 am
The question is “Why would you limit linux user?”. My link answers why it was removed, and also explains that there’s work towards making this possible in the future.
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Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:35 am
Gallaecio wrote:The question is “Why would you limit linux user?”. My link answers why it was removed, and also explains that there’s work towards making this possible in the future.


first no amount of post / articles will ever make the majority think this was a good decision on the part kde devs. second we're actually asking why the dev were too stupid to realize the backlash they would get. and lastly NO ONE is holding their breath on root actions being restored, cause this has been in the works for way too long. I'm betting longer than it took the devs to come up with the ignorant decision to remove root actions and actually remove them.


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Most (99.99%) of Linux users are developers or technical guys with computer science background, and KDE treats us as child users. KDE is beautiful but still slow compared to other desktop managers like MATE or XFCE, but we want to combine the beauty with power of functions, but what you do is locking us to use Linux like kids.
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medmedin wrote:Most (99.99%) of Linux users are developers or technical guys with computer science background, and KDE treats us as child users. KDE is beautiful but still slow compared to other desktop managers like MATE or XFCE, but we want to combine the beauty with power of functions, but what you do is locking us to use Linux like kids.


or telling us to use krusader if we want root. why in the world would any sane person run two file managers?


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I install Thunar (XFCE file manager) myself as that is an easy option for me to run it as root. I would also like to see the "open as root" option restored to Dolphin!.

The workarounds suggested here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/990611/ ... in-as-root all amount to the same thing, making it a case of opening a terminal and pasting commands which lead to the same end result which is running Dolphin as root!. why did they remove it?, all it does is hinder the smooth running of the OS imo!. o)


Running Kubuntu on two computers (one dual boot and one as single OS), were it not for gaming; I would ditch Winblows completely!.
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Rather than question the sanity of slow moving, all knowing devs I found this and placed it in my .bashrc. Sorry I cannot find the author to provide credit.

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    # Use this alias to run dolhpin as root in KDE Neon (Kubuntu 18.04): Updated 2019-01-31 @ 16:16:03 MST by rob@lectra
    alias rdar='pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY KDE_SESSION_VERSION=5 KDE_FULL_SESSION=true dolphin'


Perhaps this will work for you.


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blue_bullet wrote:Rather than question the sanity of slow moving, all knowing devs I found this and placed it in my .bashrc. Sorry I cannot find the author to provide credit.

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    # Use this alias to run dolhpin as root in KDE Neon (Kubuntu 18.04): Updated 2019-01-31 @ 16:16:03 MST by rob@lectra
    alias rdar='pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY KDE_SESSION_VERSION=5 KDE_FULL_SESSION=true dolphin'


Perhaps this will work for you.



rather than telling us not to question the devs and giving us a work around that most of us already know about how about supporting the ones in the right? you know those questioning the devs poor decision.


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Re: Why would you limit linux user ?

Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:34 pm
TheBeheader wrote:
blue_bullet wrote:Rather than question the sanity of slow moving, all knowing devs I found this and placed it in my .bashrc. Sorry I cannot find the author to provide credit.

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    # Use this alias to run dolhpin as root in KDE Neon (Kubuntu 18.04): Updated 2019-01-31 @ 16:16:03 MST by rob@lectra
    alias rdar='pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY KDE_SESSION_VERSION=5 KDE_FULL_SESSION=true dolphin'


Perhaps this will work for you.



rather than telling us not to question the devs and giving us a work around that most of us already know about how about supporting the ones in the right? you know those questioning the devs poor decision.

Sorry I did not mean any offense. I did not realize that most already know about the work around. In any case I thought it might be helpful for those that did not know about it. It has been helpful for me as we wait for the devs to change their ways. Again, no offense intended.


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Re: Why would you limit linux user ?

Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:58 pm
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    # Use this alias to run dolhpin as root in KDE Neon (Kubuntu 18.04): Updated 2019-01-31 @ 16:16:03 MST by rob@lectra
    alias rdar='pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY KDE_SESSION_VERSION=5 KDE_FULL_SESSION=true dolphin'


The workaround didn't succeed and I got the following message :
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QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
"Session bus not found\nTo circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash)\nexport $(dbus-launch)"
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Re: Why would you limit linux user ?

Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:12 am
the workaround works fine i and others have been using it for a long time. what doesn't work are the devs empty promises to restore root actions to dolphin.


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