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Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:45 pm
I'm currently using KDE 4.3.1 within a fresh new (performed two weeks ago) install of Fedora 11 from a live CD. Trying to open an sftp location with Dolphin through the terminal gives

Unknown error
unexpected SFTP error: 1
Failed to execute ssh process.

leaving me with a blank Dolphin window. Trying to open the same location using the address bar produces this strange error message:

The process for the nepomuksearch protocol died unexpectedly.

Finally, trying to open the sftp folder calling Konqueror from a terminal results in a window with the "unexpected SFTP error: 1" and on the following error messages being dumped on the terminal:

"/usr/bin/konqueror(12861)" Error in thread 140293029242912 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"
"/usr/bin/konqueror(12861)" Error in thread 140293029242912 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name"

Is this related to some known bug, and does anybody has a suggestion of from where I could start trying to locate the source of the problem?

P.S.: My home computer also runs on Fedora 11 and KDE 4.3.1, but it has been continuously upgraded from Fedora 8 (that is, KDE 3.5.x) onwards rather than being a fresh install. Dolphin and Konqueror work fine with SFTP there.
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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:47 am
Judging by the error can you make sure that ssh is installed? ( the client application )


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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:39 pm
ssh is installed, and I use it pretty much all the time with no problems from a terminal. The problems only shows up with KDE file managers. (Krusader also fails with the same error, BTW)
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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:28 pm
I don't see this on my machine (sidux w/ 4.3.1 as well). Both dolphin and konqueror work as expected (typing in addressbar and by creating network folders from remote:/ ). Since nepomuk is churning out error, can you try disabling both akonadi and nepomuk and see if it works?

Just another method: you may try sshfs...


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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:08 pm
By disabling akonadi and nepomuk you mean going to System Settings and unchecking everything under the "Nepomuk Desktop Search" and "Akonadi Configuration" windows? If so, they (strangely enough) seem to be disabled already. I also noticed that, even when starting Dolphin at a local folder from the terminal with "dolphin .", I get the nepomuk error,

"/usr/bin/dolphin(15149)" Error in thread 140003952969760 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"


, and a similar message is also displayed within the Nepomuk/Strigi settings window.
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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:26 am
Duplode wrote:By disabling akonadi and nepomuk you mean going to System Settings and unchecking everything under the "Nepomuk Desktop Search" and "Akonadi Configuration" windows? If so, they (strangely enough) seem to be disabled already.

Yes, that is what I meant. But it seems to be irrelevant. See below.

Duplode wrote:"dolphin .", I get the nepomuk error,

"/usr/bin/dolphin(15149)" Error in thread 140003952969760 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"

Well, I see this error too. :o :o Yet, doing the following
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$ dolphin sftp://user@host:22/home/user

actually brings up the password box and then the destination folder. Of course there are lot of other errors/warnings on the terminal.

Now I am at loss of ideas to debug your error. Since it is happening in konqueror and krusader, if you can remove some common configuration files (which ones? I don't know, someone else can help here) and see... One very often suggested attempt is to create a new user and try there.... If it works then it is something inside ~/.kde/share/* which is screwed. If not then it is a bigger problem, may be distribution specific.


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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:40 am
To eliminate any user profile issues, can you try with a new user? This really does sound like some component is missing from the system however.


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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:36 pm
So I tried to create a new user, but it didn't solve the problem. Perhaps it's something specifically with the LiveCD KDE-Fedora spin I used... in any case, are the Nepomuk components typically installed as part of the "KDE core" components? (kdebase package in Fedora and similar)

Edit: I just noticed the problem is not sftp-specific, but affects all queries from the Dolphin address bar. Even for basic stuff such as "~" it tries to use nepomuksearch and fails...

Edit 2: Just noticed a rather major oversight I had: I was mistaking the (nepomuk)search bar in Dolphin for the real address bar. At my main desktop KDE I do not use the search bar, so I didn't even took it as a factor... using the normal address bar in Dolphin works OK for sftp and whatever else, which is likely enough for my needs. Still, neither Konqueror nor Krusader work as expected.
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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:36 am
Interesting. Unless Nepomuk is enabled and the Sesame2 backend installed, then it is virtually useless for search. It is extremely likely the Fedora do not even package Sesame2 due to licensing issues.

What is the problem with Krusader and Konqueror?


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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:47 pm
I have the same problem described at the very beginning in this thread, but in my case I cant use sftp either with Konqueror or dolphin. Error messages are the same as previously described here. Also, ssh and sftp work properly when used in the terrminal. Could someone please tell me how to fix this error?

With thankful regards.
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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:54 am
This appears to be a Fedora specific issue from what I can gather.
In KDE Trunk a newer libssh based sftp KIO slave is present, so I can no longer test to see if this is a regression in the KDE 4.3 sftp KIO slave implementation.


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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:57 am
Well, I have been having the same problem. Unfortunately, I was typing in the search bar instead of the new vista-like address-... thingie that dolphin has since kde4. Perhaps you did the same, and having nepomuk disabled, well, it didn't search.
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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:45 am
No this is not a "Fedora specific issue". I am running Kubuntu Karmic and I have been experiencing this issue since upgrading from jaunty. The interesting side is that I can use SSH with any FTP client I choose, e.g., FileZilla. I also installed Nautilus and I can perform any SFTP operation I want using Nautilus on KDE, but KDE native file manager, Dolphin and Konqueror, will report this "Unknown SFTP Error: 8".
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Re: Dolphin, sftp and Nepomuk

Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:38 pm
I have been unable to reproduce the issue unfortunately, and tested aganist a range of servers.


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