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George
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:38 pm
stoeptegel wrote:Pretty odd situation if you ask me. We humans can call ourselves the most intelligent beings on this planet, but yet we end up with one spec and two or three other non-compatible implementations.

I know there was no real specification back then, and that it was reversed engineered by others... so i think it's not really anyones fault or anything. But why having a standard then? I mean, the whole internet is build on specs, why should we abandon that when it's all we have? Dunno how others think about this, but this is my biased view as a user ;)


I think it is a problem of lack of specs, if AZ had put out a spec on their DHT implementation, a lot of people would probably have followed that.
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Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:40 am
Hi, you said in this topic that you could connect via DHT to utorrent or bitcomet peers, but it seems I can only connect to peers using the official Bittorrent client. Is it just me ?

Using latest svn btw.
stoeptegel
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Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:21 am
maxime94 wrote:Hi, you said in this topic that you could connect via DHT to utorrent or bitcomet peers, but it seems I can only connect to peers using the official Bittorrent client. Is it just me ?

Using latest svn btw.


No this is not you, Ivan got testing and moddified some checks to see how much it would work. Normally we can only connect to KTorrent 2.0 and up and Mainline 4.1.x and up.


George wrote:I think it is a problem of lack of specs, if AZ had put out a spec on their DHT implementation, a lot of people would probably have followed that.


True, but still, they might have had their reasons for not doing that, whatever that might be. uTorrent's kamp probably don't want to get in extra work, plus they have PEX which seems to work pretty well.
stoeptegel
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:50 pm
Kick.

utorrent and mainline joined together:
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=17279
faq

Maybe the chance that utorrent will implement the new mainline DHT will rise now that uTorrent and BitTorrent have joined forces.
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:06 pm
The latest SVN should be able to bootstrap from, find, and connect to uTorrent by forcing a DHT ping to all peers it's connecting to regardless of whether or not they've announced that they're DHT-capable.

I've tested it locally on my network with a virgin KTorrent and a swarm of only that ktorrent an a uTorrent LAN machine, and with SVN ktorrent was able to go from 0 to 80 or so DHT nodes in under a minute.
stoeptegel
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:39 pm
I know KTorrent now can now more or less get nodes from a utorrent peer, but having utorrent to do native DHT by the BitTorrent spec is what would be even nicer. ;)
Somehow this news got me a feeling utorrent will change it's DHT implementation to the new version. So i thought let's kick the new news in.
George
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Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:25 am
It will be interesting what will happen now that they are merged, it doesn't make much sense to develop 2 clients which do the same in one company.

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