As you know after downloading is finished Opensuse,, does not allow seeding, and this causes problem with maintaining a favourable ratio, which is accepted with the torrent sites in general, is it possible to prevent Opensuse from muscling in and dictating the seeding?

kujirasan wrote:As you know after downloading is finished Opensuse,, does not allow seeding, and that causes problem with maintaining a favourable ratio, that is accepted to the torrent site, is it possible to prevent Opensuse from muscling in and dictating the seeding?

They do that ? That's what you get when you let lawyers fearmongering around in your company.

I guess you will have to use a package not created by OpenSUSE. We have OpenSUSE packages on our website :

http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads

kujirasan wrote:As you know after downloading is finished Opensuse,, does not allow seeding, and that causes problem with maintaining a favourable ratio, that is accepted to the torrent site, is it possible to prevent Opensuse from muscling in and dictating the seeding?

Hardly, setup your settings correctly. The only thing that opensuse disables is the DHT which is discouraged on any private site. The opensuse build in does not block your seeding. Check your firewall settings.

The OpenSuSE allows uploading, within the duration of the downloading, once downloading is finished, it cuts off uploading, for that torrent.
That is their policy.

I use OpenSuSE and can seed after download completion. Check the box titled 'keep seeding after download is finished' on the 'Downloads' page of 'Preferences'.

Get the guru package from http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser ... 10.2/RPMS/. It allows seeding after downloads.

when Ktorrent is installed, by default the box for post download seeding is clicked ,
as I do setup the Ktorrent with all the bells and whistles, but it does not seed after downloading is completed.
I will try to down load from GURU, thanks for the information. Much appreciated.

kujirasan wrote:The OpenSuSE allows uploading, within the duration of the downloading, once downloading is finished, it cuts off uploading, for that torrent.
That is their policy.

No it's not, the only thing that the base openSUSE package has disabled is DHT. It seeds perfectly after finishing the torrent. I have thousands of ktorrent users on my site and a large majority are using openSUSE's base package. They have no issues with seeding after completion. It would be stupid for suse to disable seeding after completion as they recommend it to use downloading their ISO's to relieve ftp strain.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=205390 <--- that is their policy and all they do is remove the DHT capability.

hi,

I am using ktorrent under openSUSE 10.2 to seed the torrent feed for Gutsy, but ktorrent is telling me conflicting things. On the one hand, ktorrent syas that the up speed is 0.0 kbs, which indicates that it is NOT seeding; on the other hand, it gives the status under the uploads tab as "seeding" and the word seeding is in green. Also, the transfered up count has halted at 10.3, which would tend to indicate that the upload has stopped.

To take a stab at answering my own question, it seems as if there is just an absence of leechers at the moment, according to this ktorrent site, which seems to indicate that you need to have leechers in order to seed.

http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php ... ht=seeding

That site suggest that there is simply no one leeching Gutsy 7.10, which I find hard to believe. Leechers are listed as 0(111) with an upload speed of 1.1 kb. Seeders are listed as 0(1127) which also seems odd, because it appears that there are more seeders than leechers (possibly).

This page suggests that my problem is that openSUSE shuts down seeding after download is complete, and it suggest that you click the "keep seeding after download is finished" box under the "Download Options" under Preferences in ktorrent. I have done that! So I don't understand why seeding has stopped.

http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php ... ht=seeding

Thanks in advance.

Christian Einfeldt

einfeldt wrote:hi,

I am using ktorrent under openSUSE 10.2 to seed the torrent feed for Gutsy, but ktorrent is telling me conflicting things. On the one hand, ktorrent syas that the up speed is 0.0 kbs, which indicates that it is NOT seeding; on the other hand, it gives the status under the uploads tab as "seeding" and the word seeding is in green. Also, the transfered up count has halted at 10.3, which would tend to indicate that the upload has stopped.

To take a stab at answering my own question, it seems as if there is just an absence of leechers at the moment, according to this ktorrent site, which seems to indicate that you need to have leechers in order to seed.

Correct.

http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php ... ht=seeding

That site suggest that there is simply no one leeching Gutsy 7.10, which I find hard to believe. Leechers are listed as 0(111) with an upload speed of 1.1 kb. Seeders are listed as 0(1127) which also seems odd, because it appears that there are more seeders than leechers (possibly).

This page suggests that my problem is that openSUSE shuts down seeding after download is complete, and it suggest that you click the "keep seeding after download is finished" box under the "Download Options" under Preferences in ktorrent. I have done that! So I don't understand why seeding has stopped.

http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php ... ht=seeding

Thanks in advance.

Christian Einfeldt

Well, if the keep seeding option is disabled you would not have a seedng status anyways, so that is not the problem. My thought is going out to your ISP, maybe it is blocking peer connections. Maybe you could try enabling protocol encryption to fix this?

Ain't that amazing? It was actually an absence of leechers!! I would have never thought that there could be an absence of leechers for Gutsy this earyl in its development, but it's true! When I left the computer yesterday afternoon at about 5 pm, there simply where no leechers. At that point, the amount of uploads equaled 10.3 MB. When I came back this morning, that number had increased to 100 MB uploaded!! So there must have been a lot of leachers in the European time zone, because they are active when we are asleep here in San Francisco, California.

So thanks for your answer. I guess the lesson that we have learned here is that the problem is, in fact, the absence of leechers, and not with openSUSE 10.2. So as long as you check the box to allow seeding after download is complete, you will continue seeding. And ain't that a hoot! I really think that it is great that I am helping to distribute Free Software, simply by leaving that box running. Heh. Take that, Microsoft! (snicker).

Currently there are 2(220) leechers for the Gutsy i-386 desktop and 0(2496) seeders. I am a little mystified by these numbers, because I am currently seeding with ktorrent under openSUSE 10.2. These number appear in the info section on the Status tab. I don't understand how there could only be 2 leechers for Gutsy, because it is so early, and I also don't understand how there could be 0 seeders, since I am a seeder, and since my post yesterday, I have gone up another 49 MB of seeding.

Thanks.

So the first number represents the number of seeders or leechers attached to me, and the second number in parethesis represents the number in the total swarm. That makes sense. I found the info describing these numbers here.

http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php ... ht=numbers

The odd thing about my current numbers, though, is that it indicates that there are 2 leechers attached to me now out of a total swarm of 220 leechers 2(220) and no seeders out of a swarm of 2964 seeders 0(2964) seeders. The number 0 would make sense in my case, since I am done downloading. I find it kind of odd that there are more seeders than leechers. I would have expected the opposite for Gutsy, since it has been out less than a week, IIRC, and I would expect to see lots more leechers than seeders. Is this "normal"?

But maybe that just reflects the very passionate nature of Ubuntu users. They all want to help. Heh.

The other odd thing is that it says that there are 2 leechers attached to me, but my upspeed is 0.0 kbs. How could I have two leechers if I am not transfering any bits?

Thanks again.

Maybe a little late... but torrents can have very weird lifes. With your numbers it shows that 2964 people have downloaded gusty and are still seeding. There are 220 people who are working on getting it. A lot of times when there is such a high seed to peer ratio 10:1 you may not upload a whole lot.

Me personally I just download my distros from FTP mirrors rather than through bittorrent. I don't know why that is just how I do it. Maybe many others are doing that as well.

But it does seem that you have the basics down for bittorrent. One thing to double check which may help you upload more is to make sure your ports are forwarded on your router. This way it allows people to connect to you to download data, which will typically help with speed. If you are firewalled it could prevent you from uploading as much as others.

Just something to check out. Good Luck
Jeremy

Hi Christian, I had that problem with Opensus, and I run 3 different Linux Distros, on the same ISP, which can handle up to 10 computers simultaneously, so be doubtful if the problem lies with the ISP crew!
I upgraded the OpenSUSe(10.2 not the 10.3, as there was lot of problems report from 10.3 enthusiast), then upgraded the Ktorrent from this site, and it start seeding after download was completed, mind you this may be unique to my computer not and not the norm, but you may give it a try, if you are adventurous and would like to use the 10.3, I suggest use their LiveCD, and install from that, apparently most of the problems have been iron out there.