I've used both Azureus and Utorrent extensively, read 100+ pages of optimizing and know it all, every last aspect but on a Windows platform.

I set up Mandriva Spring on another desktop (same specs, good machine) to literally force myself to use Linux (I badly want to switch) and having configured Ktorrent similar to my settings in Utorrent/Azureus the top speed I get is 70 kB/s, I've an 8MB line and on a windows platform I get 250+ 95% of the time, never less than 150, ever

and with Ktorrent running on Mandriva Spring I'm "lucky" to break above 30.

so I'm wondering, being a newb to linux, is it me? Do I need to apply an equivalent of the MS-DOS patch to move half-open connections to 10 to 50?

I really don't understand why it is soooo slow.

Advice both greatly appreciated and welcome

P.S. apologies for subject title, I realise its my settings and not at all Ktorrent, but at least you read my question...and I've google for hours to no available, nothing constructive found...unfortunately.

update:

I've installed Azureus (which was no small feat for a linux newb having had to manually install both java and Azureus) and its nicely ticking away at min 200 k/Bs

if I kill all bandwidth usage and try Ktorrent it just doesnt seem to pick up any steam - 30-50 is the range, 70 tops and drops a lot when it gets to that back down to 10ish.

I'm at a loss to understand why................if anyone can enlighten me....................???

Version ?

Hey George,

Version from rpm on Mandriva Spring is Ktorrent 2.1.2, can't seem to update it to the latest stable version of Ktorrent 2.2.2. (so it would appear I've a few versions behind) via the rpm console - it gives no updates so I decided to uninstall it completely and will try to manually install the latest version.

I'm determined to get it up and running cos it appears to be a really great bit torrent client and greatly prefer it to Azureus, one reason I switched from Azur to Utor is no java installation required.

so I have one question for your good self George, which version do I download.......?????

this is from the download page, I've a 32bit system so I can't take option 2 or 3 and 4/5 are .deb packages so I "think" (but not at all sure) that I should take the first one, i.e. ktorrent-2.2.2.tar.gz

copying it to usr/bin, (I think, I've no idea having googled, some sites say to put it in a different directory......????)
then in shell under root, use tar -zxvf ktorrent-2.2.2.tar.gz to untar it
then I'm guessing
./configure
make
make install &&


KTorrent 2.2.2

* Source code : ktorrent-2.2.2.tar.gz
* Bluewhite64 Linux : ktorrent-2.2.2-x86_64-1.tgz (Thanks to Arny)
* OpenSUSE 10.2 : i586 and x86_64(Thanks to Marek Stopka)
* Debian testing (lenny) and unstable (sid) : get packages from unstable
* Debian stable (etch): i386, amd64, i386 (for debugging) and amd64 (for debugging) (Thanks to MoDaX)


I'm a linux newb as I said before so, while very PC literate from windows side, linux is virgin territory (only installed it two day ago)..........so any help from yourself would be appreciated, but only if you have the time.

On a general note, I find unpacking these tar.gz files quite a nightmare, I google for the right commands but really haven't a clue what they stand for even after researching it on google.

Cheers,
Paul

P.S. thanks for replying, I was expecting to get flamed a lot from the title thread - I'm certain ktorrent is better than both Azur and Utor, seems to be a nice cross of both - I just need to get the bloody thing working, at 5am this morning I gave up

./configure
make
make install &&

Instead of make install, you can do checkinstall (first install the checkinstall program), which will build a RPM package for you and leave your system clean. If you're going to compile KTorrent from source code, you will probably need to install first KDE-dev package.

Yes, I too am fairly new to Linux, as well as to torrents in general. I also get slow down speeds, hardly ever over 70 KB/s. Just recently since I updated to ktorrent 2.2.2, when ever I run it, my room mates Internet connection seems to kinda drop (I'm guessing that issue has something to do with the router setting).

Yeah, haven't had the time to review Ktorrent since, have been installing Skype, looking for a Linux app to change .chm files and many other 'hiccups' on Linux - its just a matter of finding the right application and reading more. I'll get there in the end, I always do.

I'll stay with Azureus for the time being as I have the same speed I have on my Windows PC, but once I've everything else sorted out and my linux PC doing everything I do in Windows I'll come back to getting Ktorrent to do what I want it to. Azureus is java based and bloated and I don't like it very much despite having spent my first year with this client.

as for your "slow speeds" pasty it could be a "lot" of factors, here are 3 plausible explanations

1. internet connection dropping can be caused by the router being overloaded with too many connections (happens on older models, they cannot handle so many connections), so limit your torrents to 1-2 with 40 peeps max for each, 80 global connections to see if it makes a difference.

2. I'm assuming you have a clear open port which you can test on

www.grc.com (shields up section, user defined port probe); ensure you have port forwarding activated in router settings (grc will test your router settings) but not your software firewall so ensure the relevant port is open .

3. could also be just a bad torrent - when checking for speed, download a torrent with a lot of seeds, sth with a v. good seed to peer ratio, open office is a good one usually so in all likelihood you be able to test max download speed, by doing this you can usually eliminate it as a reason for slow speeds.

at the end of the day it really is a process of elimination, thats why I cannot understand why I have poor speeds in using Ktorrent, I've covered every base I know of, but obviously I'll have to do more research tks to google.

When I first started, I was using Azureus on windows over a secure wifi network, that ""continously dropped and reset my net connection"" (changing the wifi manager software had no impact between supplier and windows wifi mgr), move to ethernet decreased these disconnections, modem/router upgrade to latest model completely solved the problem, now I can have 250 global connections with 6 torrents running literally 24/7 for a month without a single disconnect - it MAY be worth buying a new router but you need to eliminate all other possibilities first.

Oh, and thanks for the tip Typhon.

oh and evidently m8, it depends on your dl speed, I've an 8mb dsl line so I expect at the very minimum a 200+ speed, there is no hard fast rule, best way is to download a linux distro through an ftp server (only using the total bandwidth) and whatever you see as your d/l speed is what your max bit torrent speed with be.

enable encryption, maybe your ISP throttles bit torrent traffic........

like I said, there are lotsa different reasons for slow speeds....google it, there are some really wonderful guides out there if you take the time to look for them.

Cheers,
Gnite,
P.

I read, with some pleasure and comfort, another post entitled something about sarcasm and this guy trying to compile ktorrent under suse 10.2...and much to his delight numerous people came to his assistance..........I don't suppose any of you have tried compiling the source code of ktorrent 2.2.2 in Mandriva Spring 2007 ??

every time I try compiling it

./configure

it splurts out one error after the other(I've had about 9 so far), countless googling hours later and I appear to be making progress, it compiles a few pages down the shell before splurting out a new one

I've installed, about 500MB of gcc, g++ or c++ compilerdevelopment packages or files, header files, libraries etc. etc. etc. the fun never stops and I'm wondering is poor little Alice ever going to get out of Wonderland.

perhaps this is one dog that should throw away his bone.

although I really hate giving into something, I suspect I'll be back at it tonight when I get home from work.

this was the latest error

checking for KDE... configure: error:
in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
So, check this please and use another prefix!
[root@localhost ktorrent-2.2.2]#

I'm off to google KDE headers....like I said, the fun never stops

everything went well compiling the source code...but since putting in make it has been throwing up screen after screen of jargon....for an hour, how long does the process normally take?

if only the installation instructions were as easy as

./configure
make
make install

......................................as a newb I'm clueless, should I CTRL C the shell and ./configure it again or is it normal it takes so long? ??? There doesn't seem to be reiterations so I'm reluctant to stop it...........

can anybody, anyway PLZ enlighten an utter newbie to Linux....

pllllllzzzzzzzzzz.............

everything installed correctly and with the new version my speed is where it was with Azureus, crusing along between 250-350.

for those that do read this and

1. have installed Mandriva Spring 2007
2. want something similar to Utorrent on Linux

well...........you're in for a lot of fun (last barriers for me were installing "libkdecore5-devel-3.80-3-0.2007" via mandrake for the KDE header error, installing gmp by using urpmi gmp to find which package on my system already have it but which I had not installed, again through the mandrake console, software section -( you don't need to go to www.swox.com/gmp or rather www.gmplib.org) and finally installing the make command or bash or whatever the correct terminology is, I believe it's bash with "urpmi make"


ohhhhhhhhh but don't worry, talk to yourself enough on this board and you'll be surprised at the outpouring of helpfulness/ insightful contributions by the various members.

Gretz,
P

A problem can be small when there is collective knowledge.

Not that I want to bust on your choice of OS, but I would generally say that I find that Ubuntu is the best choice for "converters" from Windows (I am one myself) since it has a high degree of user-friendliness.

As a windows convert myself, I actually hated Ubuntu. Mandriva's really really good IMHO and the guys in #Mandriva on freenode have been a monsterous help to turn me from a linux noob into a regular over the years.

On Mandriva Spring, just go to http://seerofsouls.org and install Hawkwind's SOS RPM Repository. That has the latest KTorrent compiled into RPM for easy installing. SOS is the best. Seriously. The RPM repo information is here: http://seerofsouls.com/2007.html

I've never had a problem speed-wise on my Ktorrent install in Mandriva Spring. I top out at 1.5 MB/s on a LOT of torrents, maxing out my 10 megabit line. It's worked fine since version 2.0 when I started using it as well.

It might be something in your settings? I'd recommend making sure you have the correct peer limit numbers set so they're not too low, and you don't have any download capping setup.

I guess I'll add my two cents here.

If you need/want to compile anything, be sure to first install all devel packages.

In my (limited) experience with Suse Linux, when I do a new installation of the operating system, I go into Yast software installation, and choose "package groups". Down near the bottom, I find a listing for "development". Choose ALL of them. Make double certain that Kernel source is installed. Without source headers available, compiles are doomed to failure.

After installation of the operating system, I've learned to scan back over the applications in Yast, and make sure that ALL source files are installed. It doesn't matter that it's an obscure application under the multi-media section - I install it.

On my current installation, anytime I choose to compile something, it works - whether it be an auto-gen or configure, it runs with very few errors in the output.

Finally, it should be noted that not all "errors" in the output are really ERRORS. One error that startled me, was when an application checked to see if it were running on a Debian system. I got a message something like "ERROR - no Deb system".

Hope that helps anyone else trying to compile...