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Kdenlive 0.7 beta 1: Timeline editing questions

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jstroik
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The current documentation available for kdenlive doesn't seem to be relevant to the KDE 4 version. I have a few very basic questions. How do you:



- remove white space from the time line

- add white space to the time line



I really need to do both for a fairly large project I'm working on in kdenlive, and I can't find a way to do these things. In the old version, you could use the spacer tool to add white space. I don't see how to do these trivial tasks and I really don't want to move 200+ clips and transitions.



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If there is no way to do what I'm asking, then is there a way to easily select a large portion of the timeline? I need to select all items after the insertion point, if possible. Otherwise, I will have to just manually delete a lot of this stuff and render the movie in two clips, then append them. That would be obnoxious.



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Spacer and remove space is not implemented yet in Kdenlive. You can however select parts of the timeline by clicking in an empty area of the timeline with the shift key pressed. You can then draw a selection rectangle. Hope it helps

jstroik
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Hmm that wasn't working for me as of an early October SVN release. I'll try upgrading to the current revision and give that a try.



I used Kdenlive 0.5-svn back in February and March when I first got my HG10. At that time, getting ffmpeg to work properly with AVCHD was the biggest issue (I ended up using mencoder to reencode to another codec). This time has been a little more frustrating from Kdenlive's side because there aren't enough basic editing tools anymore and a lot of operations I try to do lead to crashes (selecting many clips and transitions then trying to move them leads to a crash every time).



That said, I still like Kdenlive, and I appreciate the responsiveness of the team when it comes to bug reports. I want to use kdenlive for my projects but it is difficult to do so without better time line manipulation tools. These things aren't glamorous but they're essential for any video editing project larger than a very small one.



A new solution I thought of will save me a lot of work:



- insert a track above the currently used tracks

- fade out where I want to insert the new footage

- render that entire time line

- put the clip i want to insert in the top track before the footage it should go after

- fade that in, render the entire time line



This way, I'll have two copies of the rendered project. My idea is to truncate the first render from the beginning until right after it fades out. I'll truncate the second render from the point where it fades in until the end. Then I will cat the files together.



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Well, I ran into a lot of nasty issues -- mostly due to the time line becoming completely desynchronized whenever I deleted large clips or many clips. I describe the bugs here, but didn't take the time to reproduce them accurately enough for a bug report:



viewtopic.php?f=16&t=624





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