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gv650
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green with questions

Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:58 pm

Hi all.  I'm new here and relatively unfamiliar with video manipulation systems and software.  I'm thinking about converting a Windows box I have at home to Ubuntu Linux and putting free video and audio software on it.  Kdenlive is one of the open video software packages I'm aware of at this point and I'm trying to compare the features of each (see the free 'nix ones here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software).  My aspirations as a movie-maker are not great--mostly I'll be trying to archive family and/or event performance clips onto disk media.  But it's going to be all high-def.  I have a Canon HG10 high-def camcorder.  I want to add a blu-ray burner to this Linux box and get a blu-ray player for my hdtv, now that the blu-ray "won out" and costs appear to be coming down.  I have questions about hardware needs and the software features comparison and would really appreciate your opinions if you have any time.


Hardware:  I drive a fairly powerful Red Hat Linux machine at my office: HP xw8600 with quad processor and 16 GB ram.  The box I'm talking about converting won't be nearly as strong (unfortunately), but if the addition of minor expense items would help I might beef it up some.  I have two machines at home that could be the one I choose--and at this writing I don't have the specs for either!  I will get those tonight and ask you again tomorrow if I have enough beef to even think about this.


Software features:  I know you are biased to Kdenlive--and it looks very intuitive to me as well.  This weekend I used Windows software that came packaged with my camcorder to make and burn a DVD using AVCHD source clips (Ulead MovieFactory I think).  I didn't think it had very much functionality.  The clips (of a dark music club scene) were not shot on a "nighttime" setting and needed to be lightened (balanced?)--and I did not see the ability to do that at all on this Ulead software.  Also, this admittedly abbreviated video software only allows you to burn the resulting movie--I saw no options to save the video out to a .avi file, for example (but maybe I just don't know enough yet!).  Anyway, things like color and lightness balancing, ability to write to disks at a native high-def resolution (like blu-ray), and maybe just write them back out to hard disk storage would be good.  I have a list of things here that one of the others claim to do.  It's a long list, but even if you would glance through it and tell me if Kdenlive does or doesn't do this or that would be a great help to me.  Thank you.















ASSORTED FEATURES AUDIO EFFECTS VIDEO EFFECTS
Compositing + editing

Still image panning

VU meters

Unlimited tracks

16 bit YUV compositing

floating point compositing

Background rendering on clusters

Free form editing

Firewire, MJPEG, bttv video I/O

Firewire, OSS, Alsa audio I/O

Batch capturing

Batch rendering

SMP utilization

Realtime effects

Quicktime, AVI, MPEG, and image sequence I/O

OpenEXR images

OGG Vorbis audio

64 bit internal audio representation

Headroom monitoring

LADSPA plugins

Bezier masks

Track routing like a real console

Track nudge for audio and video

Reverse audio and video in realtime

Bidirectional, variable speed scrubbing

Different overlay modes

Compressor

Delay

Denoise

Despike

Parametric EQ

Freeverb

Gain

Heroine College Concert Hall

Invert

Loop

Pitch shift

Reverse

Spectrogram

Synthesizer

Time based interpolate

LADSPA compatibility

HDTV Standards conversion

Various Effect TV plugins

Blur

Brightness/Contrast

Chroma Key

Color balance

Decimate

Deinterlace

Delay

Denoise

Difference Key

Downsample

Flip

Freeze

Gradient

Histogram

Hue/Saturation

Inverse Telecine

Invert

Linearize raw images

Linear/Radial/Zoom Blur

Loop

Motion Tracking

Oil Painting

Overlay

Perspective

Polar

Reverse

Rotate

Scale

Sharpen

Shift Interlace

Swap channels

Threshold

Time Average

Time based interpolate

Title

Translate

Scopes

Unsharp Mask

Wave

Whirl/Pinch

 


 


 


 


 


 

gv650
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Re: green with questions

Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:24 pm

Anyone?

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Re: green with questions

Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:27 pm

Well I think KDEnlive is fit to your needs but you better check out the theatre section in the forum for some examples. Also check out the live-DVD to try KDEnlive without installing anything on your computer.


http://kdenlive.org/user-manual/downloading-and-installing-kdenlive/live-demonstration-dvd-or-usb-storage


 


And see the user manual/video section for some more answers and comparisons to those forty-or-so assorted features, audio effects and video effects...



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Re: green with questions

Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:51 am

Skip Blu-Ray. Well, get a player if you want to play Blu-Ray discs, but for your personal works, I see little value in Blu-Ray burner and playback. Just use a network, a little media PC or bridge device, and a file server. I don't even know about the state of blu-ray authoring and burning in Linux/Free Software.


Looking over your list, things we do not have:



  • vu meters

  • 16bit and floating point compositing (8bit)

  • background rendering on clusters

  • batch capture

  • headroom monitoring

  • bezier masks

  • track routing

  • reverse


  • Heroine College Concert Hall (gee, I wonder where you got this list)




  • linearize raw images




  • scopes




 


there might be others image processing filters that I did not take the time to look into


 


 





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