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Hints for editing on a rickety Netbook?

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callmebruce
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So, I have a tiny netbook with an Atom processor running Ubuntu 11.10. I shot some video with my camera phone and had no problem editing it. Shot some video with a Nikon Coolpix camera. It was in a lower resolution, and no problems editing. Sound wasn't great, but I just used the built in microphone in my camera. I edited out the sound in KDenlive (well, I think I just muted it or something)

I decided to pick up a Kodak Zi10, a 16 Gig sdhc card and a Sony ECM-DS70P mic. The mic is okay for clipping on my collar and talking or holding in my hand and talking. Not good at all talking with someone at a distance more than a few feet. Thinking about picking up a hand-held mic with a longer cable.

So - I learned that I can hardly even view 720P at 60 frames per second on my netbook. It is really funny. 720P at 30 frames per second is odd. I didn't even try viewing 1080P. I'm planning on bringing it down to WVGA to see if I can view it. I know I can edit and render lower resolution stuff in KDenlive on my netbook (already did with my camera). Just trying to determine if I want to lower resolution on the Kodak Zi10 or try and snag my oldest son's laptop (with a good processor and a lot of memory!).

Sorry for just blathering on. Trying to figure out what the best way to shoot, edit and render a video with my youngest son for his class project would be. We enjoyed using KDenlive to edit and render a brief segment from my Nikon, and it played just fine on Youtube. Might take that track.

So - for lower powered netbooks, what resolution would you recommend filming in? Anyone messing around with small, easy to carry microphones have a recommendation? We're trying to do an environmental film and will film outdoors, along some trails, a reservoir and a stream. We're planning on about three minutes, but that would mean a lot of video cut down to hit the three minute mark. I think 720P or 1080P would really bring out the leaves, trails and water - but I know I can't edit that on my netbook. Would Proxy editing help in this situation? Or is that asking way too much of the Atom processor?
markoc
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This is exactly what proxies are for.
Of course, the final render will take some time.
(and maybe the initial generation of proxies)
callmebruce
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I think that will do the trick! I have three rescue beagles, so shot four short clips of them doing Beagle things. Shot in 720P at 30FPS (I think it's at 30 - need to verify). Was able to bring them into the timeline, add a title and view the project. Render time for the short clips was estimated at a little over an hour and a half. Not a problem! I cancelled out of the render as I want to do some editing and playing now.

But! You can open, edit and play clips from a Kodak Zi10 with an external mic in KDenlive on a Netbook, and they play just fine in the default movie player. I'll try editing and rendering tonight, to make sure I can go through the process before handing the Playsport over to my son.

Proxy is the way to go on the Netbook!
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I use a netbook + external hard drive as a backup when I'm away for weeks at a time and don't have enough SD cards to store hours of video off my Canon 550D's, so I bump the videos onto the net book and duplicate to the external h/d. Then do some rough edits from time to time using the netbook. When I get back, I copy all files to a 4TB RAID and external OEM drives for archive.

Problem is trying to edit with kdenlive on a netbook is that some of kdenlive's interfaces such as the render panel are too long for the screen at it's native resolution, so you can't always actually see the OK / Cancel / whatever buttons to use kdenlive successfully, either a bit more efficient use of space or scroll bars or collapse / expand's are really needed to make using it on small screen laptops / netbook more suitable.
callmebruce
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Yeah, I noticed that problem in trying to resize or move panels. I ended up tabbing and hoping I hit okay. My options are to talk my kid into loading KDenlive on his Ubuntu laptop, snagging a monitor from a dreaded Windows desktop my youngest kid uses for online highschool, or tabbing and hoping. I was able to edit a bit on the Netbook using lower quality video, and able to mess with my Kodak 720P video (and add some audio tracks) - but your right, some of the screen sizing is hard to deal with on a small Netbook screen, and sticking an external monitor on it defeats the purpose.

(maybe I should limit my hobbies and trade my beer-making supplies for a desktop - naaaaaa - beer good)


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