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amadlopes
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Unstable

Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:06 pm
I'm using kdenlive on a manjaro machine and I love it but have a big problem is almost impossible to work because it chashes 2-3 times per hour. I'm using an AUR version (15.09) because the the normal (extra) version was completely impossible to work. I'm using it on a lenovo t430 with ssd. There is no padron for the crashes, it crashes when ever it wants. Is there anything I can do to get it better ? Is it only on manjaro ? Please help.

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Re: Unstable

Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:22 pm
you're not alone.

Kdenlive has taken quite a big drop in stability recently. VERY much looking forward to seeing a more stable version.

You could try an older version? It was working ok a few months back. Not sure where you'd get an older version sorry. :(
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Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:49 pm
I don't have any experience using old packages with Manjaro, but the version of kdenlive you'll want is 0.9.10, the lack of stability is to do with a move from using kde4 libraries to kde5. In fact, kind of wish they'd just stuck with kde4 stuff, but the move would have to happen eventually I guess, and I hope it will stabilise again soon.

It was a bit of a pain rolling back to kdenlive-0.9.10 with Tumbleweed as other bits were compiled against kde5 and needed replacing (mlt and frie0r-plugins).

Sorry I couldn't be more help :/
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Re: Unstable

Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:25 pm
Thanks a lot you all. It really help because I was think what I was doing wrong or if it was a problem of manjaro/archlinux because they tend to be blending edge. Now I know that it is a problem of kdenlive and it is a pitty because I like it very much. I think I'm going to try alternatives like openshot or shotcut. I think that kdenlive is better, as far as know but until is more stable I think I will use the alternatives.
Thanks for the responses.

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Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:01 pm
Kdenlive 15.8.* is the stable branch, even if based on KF5.
We had a problem in 15.8.2 (october release), but normally 15.8.3 should be fine for normal work (tagged last week, archives from yesterday).
15.9 is the development branch, but it should become a release within 1 month, so we would appreciate very much feedback from you alpha tester ;)
If you identify a crash condition, please reproduce it in gdb and send the backtrace. Sometimes the problem can be in ffmpeg/mlt (eg recent memory leak & wrong composite+alpha operations)...
Note: we are aware that we have problems with titles in Qt5 but very tricky and didn't find a fix yet.
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Re: Unstable

Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:01 am
vpinion, which MLT version has the memory leak problem? I'm asking because I have seen such a leak in MLT with four or five affine/composition transitions at the same time in a larger project. Is there a fixed stable MLT available or only dev MLT?
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Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:26 am
vpinon I was using 15.8.2 but was impossible to work so after to try to fix it with tips from forum on manjaro I decided to try the aur one (15.9). It is better but it crashes 2-3 times per hour. I would apreciate to help but I can't isolate when it crashes. It crashes when I'm moving clip on timeline, when I tryed to apply transitions or effects etc
When the version 15.8.3 arrives to the repository I will try it and tell you how it works.

Thanks a lot you all.
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Re: Unstable

Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:06 am
TheDiveO: Dan doesn't release MLT so often, so building the dev MLT is sometimes necessary to get the latest fix.
If there is a problem with composite, that can be an issue with 15.9 as there are automatic composite transitions on every track...
amadlopes: if no DrKonqi offers to crate backtrace, then you could run "gdb kdenlive" then "run", and "bt" after the crash, and paste the output to pastebin...
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Re: Unstable

Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:07 pm
vpinon wrote:Kdenlive 15.8.* is the stable branch, even if based on KF5.
We had a problem in 15.8.2 (october release), but normally 15.8.3 should be fine for normal work (tagged last week, archives from yesterday).
15.9 is the development branch, but it should become a release within 1 month, so we would appreciate very much feedback from you alpha tester ;)
If you identify a crash condition, please reproduce it in gdb and send the backtrace. Sometimes the problem can be in ffmpeg/mlt (eg recent memory leak & wrong composite+alpha operations)...
Note: we are aware that we have problems with titles in Qt5 but very tricky and didn't find a fix yet.

Yeah, sorry, I don't mean to suggest that kdenlive-0.9 is the stable branch, just that in terms of stability I find it's more solid than current kdenlive.
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Re: Unstable

Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:32 pm
vpinon wrote:TheDiveO: Dan doesn't release MLT so often, so building the dev MLT is sometimes necessary to get the latest fix.
If there is a problem with composite, that can be an issue with 15.9 as there are automatic composite transitions on every track...

For production I'm keeping with the branch "Applications/15.08" at this time. There should not be any automatic composite transitions then, right?
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Re: Unstable

Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:20 am
I have the same problem on my second laptop running manjaro: there is no kdenlive 0.9.8x available anymore through the AUR .... if anybody can point me to how to get kdenlive 0.9.8.10 run on manjaro that would be fantastic :)
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Re: Unstable

Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:29 pm
If you can use Archlinux packages (you mentioned AUR), you will find the old versions of kdenlive (and any other package) here:
http://seblu.net/a/archive/packages/k/kdenlive/

But you will have to take care of the dependencies by yourself.
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Re: Unstable

Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:55 pm
vpinon wrote:We had a problem in 15.8.2 (october release), but normally 15.8.3 should be fine for normal work (tagged last week, archives from yesterday).

I just would like to confirm that in my experience, 15.08.3 is rather stable on Arch Linux 64bit with AMD Catalyst graphics drivers.
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Re: Unstable

Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:31 pm
qubodup wrote:
vpinon wrote:We had a problem in 15.8.2 (october release), but normally 15.8.3 should be fine for normal work (tagged last week, archives from yesterday).

I just would like to confirm that in my experience, 15.08.3 is rather stable on Arch Linux 64bit with AMD Catalyst graphics drivers.

Yes, I've found now that I had the opportunity to try out kdenlive-15.08.3 with a new project, I have found it to be stable enough for proper use.

A few bugs present that weren't in kdenlive-0.9, but nothing show stopping and I imagine they'll go away soon. (even sooner once I get the time to report them all properly).
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Re: Unstable

Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:09 pm
good to know, thanks! I ll give it another shot!

problem here is: manjaro works perfectly with dual monitor desktop with the nouveau drivers and horrible performance with the proprietary drivers, so i cant really use them to please kdenlive ;)


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