Hi there

Not an English -speaking (thank you the web translator) I allow myself to create a new post to report a bug, finally I think.

Since the update of Linux Manjaro Gnome (Wayland) I have a problem with the title clip.
The selection of the button to choose the color of the text brings a Kdenlive blockage then its closure a few times later. Hard.

A complement if specialist goes through there ......

I opened Kdenlive via a console

At the opening I have

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~  kdenlive                                                                                   SEGV ✘  5m 0s 
Warning: Ignoring XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland on Gnome. Use QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland to run on Wayland anyway.
QPaintDevice: Cannot destroy paint device that is being painted
Could not detect package type, probably default? App dir is "/usr/bin"
=== /// CANNOT ACCESS SPEECH DICTIONARIES FOLDER
mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib/mlt-7/libmltsox.so
  (libsox.so.3: Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partagé: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type)
mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib/mlt-7/libmltrtaudio.so
  (librtaudio.so.6: Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partagé: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type)
mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib/mlt-7/libmltmovit.so
  (libmovit.so.8: Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partagé: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type)
profilePath from KdenliveSetting::mltPath:  "/usr/share/mlt-7/profiles"
meltPath from KdenliveSetting::rendererPath:  "/usr/bin/melt-7"
Empty metadata for  "avcolour_space"
Empty metadata for  "avcolor_space"
Empty metadata for  "avdeinterlace"
Empty metadata for  "swscale"
Empty metadata for  "swresample"
Empty metadata for  "telecide"
Empty metadata for  "deinterlace"
Empty metadata for  "audiochannels"
Empty metadata for  "audioconvert"
Empty metadata for  "imageconvert"
plugin not available: "avfilter.acompressor"
plugin not available: "avfilter.aecho"
plugin not available: "avfilter.agate"
plugin not available: "avfilter.atadenoise"
plugin not available: "avfilter.bs2b"
plugin not available: "avfilter.bwdif"
plugin not available: "avfilter.deblock"
plugin not available: "avfilter.dedot"
plugin not available: "avfilter.deflate"
plugin not available: "avfilter.derain"
plugin not available: "avfilter.doubleweave"
plugin not available: "avfilter.field"
plugin not available: "avfilter.framestep"
plugin not available: "avfilter.fspp"
plugin not available: "avfilter.graphmonitor"
plugin not available: "avfilter.hqdn3d"
plugin not available: "avfilter.inflate"
plugin not available: "avfilter.lagfun"
plugin not available: "avfilter.loudnorm"
plugin not available: "avfilter.mcdeint"
plugin not available: "avfilter.random"
plugin not available: "avfilter.removegrain"
plugin not available: "avfilter.separatefields"
plugin not available: "avfilter.shuffleplanes"
plugin not available: "avfilter.sofalizer"
plugin not available: "avfilter.sr"
plugin not available: "avfilter.tmix"
plugin not available: "avfilter.w3fdif"
plugin not available: "avfilter.weave"
plugin not available: "avfilter.yadif"
plugin not available: "frei0r.baltan"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bgsubtract0r"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_eq_mask"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_eq_to_rect"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_hemi_to_eq"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_rect_to_eq"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_stabilize_360"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_transform_360"
plugin not available: "frei0r.delay0r"
plugin not available: "frei0r.delaygrab"
plugin not available: "frei0r.lightgraffiti"
plugin not available: "frei0r.lightgraffiti"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa.9354877"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "movit.blur"
plugin not available: "movit.sharpen"
plugin not available: "movit.diffusion"
plugin not available: "movit.flip"
plugin not available: "movit.glow"
plugin not available: "movit.lift_gamma_gain"
plugin not available: "movit.mirror"
plugin not available: "movit.opacity"
plugin not available: "movit.rect"
plugin not available: "movit.saturation"
plugin not available: "movit.unsharp_mask"
plugin not available: "movit.vignette"
plugin not available: "movit.white_balance"
plugin not available: "region"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "timewarp"
plugin not available: "region"
QQmlEngine::setContextForObject(): Object already has a QQmlContext
QWidget::setMinimumSize: (effect_list/QDockWidget) Negative sizes (0,-1) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: (transition_list/QDockWidget) Negative sizes (0,-1) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: (effect_list/QDockWidget) Negative sizes (0,-1) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: (transition_list/QDockWidget) Negative sizes (0,-1) are not possible
QQmlEngine::setContextForObject(): Object already has a QQmlContext
qrc:/qml/timeline.qml:2132:5: QML Connections: Implicitly defined onFoo properties in Connections are deprecated. Use this syntax instead: function onFoo(<arguments>) { ... }


After unexpected closure of Kdenlive I have

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(kdenlive:17357): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 17:38:58.148: _gtk_style_provider_private_get_settings: assertion 'GTK_IS_STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIVATE (provider)' failed

(kdenlive:17357): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 17:38:58.148: _gtk_style_provider_private_get_settings: assertion 'GTK_IS_STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIVATE (provider)' failed

(kdenlive:17357): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 17:38:58.148: _gtk_style_provider_private_get_settings: assertion 'GTK_IS_STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIVATE (provider)' failed
zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  kdenlive
    ~                                                                                            SEGV ✘  7m 52s 
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘





If it can help.....

moreaupi wrote:A complement if specialist goes through there ......

I opened Kdenlive via a console

At the opening I have

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~  kdenlive                                                                                   SEGV ✘  5m 0s 
Warning: Ignoring XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland on Gnome. Use QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland to run on Wayland anyway.
QPaintDevice: Cannot destroy paint device that is being painted
Could not detect package type, probably default? App dir is "/usr/bin"
=== /// CANNOT ACCESS SPEECH DICTIONARIES FOLDER
mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib/mlt-7/libmltsox.so
  (libsox.so.3: Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partagé: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type)
mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib/mlt-7/libmltrtaudio.so
  (librtaudio.so.6: Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partagé: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type)
mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib/mlt-7/libmltmovit.so
  (libmovit.so.8: Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partagé: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type)
profilePath from KdenliveSetting::mltPath:  "/usr/share/mlt-7/profiles"
meltPath from KdenliveSetting::rendererPath:  "/usr/bin/melt-7"
Empty metadata for  "avcolour_space"
Empty metadata for  "avcolor_space"
Empty metadata for  "avdeinterlace"
Empty metadata for  "swscale"
Empty metadata for  "swresample"
Empty metadata for  "telecide"
Empty metadata for  "deinterlace"
Empty metadata for  "audiochannels"
Empty metadata for  "audioconvert"
Empty metadata for  "imageconvert"
plugin not available: "avfilter.acompressor"
plugin not available: "avfilter.aecho"
plugin not available: "avfilter.agate"
plugin not available: "avfilter.atadenoise"
plugin not available: "avfilter.bs2b"
plugin not available: "avfilter.bwdif"
plugin not available: "avfilter.deblock"
plugin not available: "avfilter.dedot"
plugin not available: "avfilter.deflate"
plugin not available: "avfilter.derain"
plugin not available: "avfilter.doubleweave"
plugin not available: "avfilter.field"
plugin not available: "avfilter.framestep"
plugin not available: "avfilter.fspp"
plugin not available: "avfilter.graphmonitor"
plugin not available: "avfilter.hqdn3d"
plugin not available: "avfilter.inflate"
plugin not available: "avfilter.lagfun"
plugin not available: "avfilter.loudnorm"
plugin not available: "avfilter.mcdeint"
plugin not available: "avfilter.random"
plugin not available: "avfilter.removegrain"
plugin not available: "avfilter.separatefields"
plugin not available: "avfilter.shuffleplanes"
plugin not available: "avfilter.sofalizer"
plugin not available: "avfilter.sr"
plugin not available: "avfilter.tmix"
plugin not available: "avfilter.w3fdif"
plugin not available: "avfilter.weave"
plugin not available: "avfilter.yadif"
plugin not available: "frei0r.baltan"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bgsubtract0r"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_eq_mask"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_eq_to_rect"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_hemi_to_eq"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_rect_to_eq"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_stabilize_360"
plugin not available: "frei0r.bigsh0t_transform_360"
plugin not available: "frei0r.delay0r"
plugin not available: "frei0r.delaygrab"
plugin not available: "frei0r.lightgraffiti"
plugin not available: "frei0r.lightgraffiti"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa.9354877"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "ladspa"
plugin not available: "movit.blur"
plugin not available: "movit.sharpen"
plugin not available: "movit.diffusion"
plugin not available: "movit.flip"
plugin not available: "movit.glow"
plugin not available: "movit.lift_gamma_gain"
plugin not available: "movit.mirror"
plugin not available: "movit.opacity"
plugin not available: "movit.rect"
plugin not available: "movit.saturation"
plugin not available: "movit.unsharp_mask"
plugin not available: "movit.vignette"
plugin not available: "movit.white_balance"
plugin not available: "region"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "sox"
plugin not available: "timewarp"
plugin not available: "region"
QQmlEngine::setContextForObject(): Object already has a QQmlContext
QWidget::setMinimumSize: (effect_list/QDockWidget) Negative sizes (0,-1) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: (transition_list/QDockWidget) Negative sizes (0,-1) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: (effect_list/QDockWidget) Negative sizes (0,-1) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: (transition_list/QDockWidget) Negative sizes (0,-1) are not possible
QQmlEngine::setContextForObject(): Object already has a QQmlContext
qrc:/qml/timeline.qml:2132:5: QML Connections: Implicitly defined onFoo properties in Connections are deprecated. Use this syntax instead: function onFoo(<arguments>) { ... }


After unexpected closure of Kdenlive I have

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(kdenlive:17357): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 17:38:58.148: _gtk_style_provider_private_get_settings: assertion 'GTK_IS_STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIVATE (provider)' failed

(kdenlive:17357): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 17:38:58.148: _gtk_style_provider_private_get_settings: assertion 'GTK_IS_STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIVATE (provider)' failed

(kdenlive:17357): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 17:38:58.148: _gtk_style_provider_private_get_settings: assertion 'GTK_IS_STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIVATE (provider)' failed
zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  kdenlive
    ~                                                                                            SEGV ✘  7m 52s 
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘
    ~                                                                                                       SEGV ✘





If it can help.....

For what I found on a quick search here and here the

QPaintDevice: Cannot destroy paint device that is being painted
Could not detect package type, probably default? App dir is "/usr/bin"

is a syntax error, maybe it gets fixed on the upcoming version of Kdenlive. For other stuff I read it seems harmless.

The

=== /// CANNOT ACCESS SPEECH DICTIONARIES FOLDER

message is a known bug.

For the

mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib/mlt-7/libmltsox.so

message and the following related to mlt, try this thread.

Empty metadata for "imageconvert" and plugin not available messages are self explanatory and seems harmless.

The

QQmlEngine::setContextForObject(): Object already has a QQmlContext

is a known ug.

For the

QWidget::setMinimumSize: (effect_list/QDockWidget) Negative sizes (0,-1) are not possible

messages try this thread

The

qrc:/qml/timeline.qml:2132:5: QML Connections: Implicitly defined onFoo properties in Connections are deprecated. Use this syntax instead: function onFoo(<arguments>) { ... }

message is self explanatory, a depreacted syntax is being used on the source code, maybe they fix it on the following versions.

Finally, the

Gtk-CRITICAL **: 17:38:58.148: _gtk_style_provider_private_get_settings

messages, according to this thread seems like a conflict with GTK. SInce KDE uses QT, a different library, it sound logical.

I should say, the messages I mark as harmless, I have them too.

Thank you for these responses.
As indicated first post I do not speak English, which limits understanding of all these messages.
In addition, I am only a user and non -computer scientist which limits even more understanding of what can happen in the bowels of the beast ...
But if I understood correctly, the concern for this unexpected closure would be linked to a possible conflict between programming languages (qT and GTK).
I just have to wait for an update ...

Thank you again for these explanations.

I speak English and Spanish, if that's convenient to you. If not, try to search for a KDE forum on your language. If you don't find one, you can use Google Translator.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not an expert at all, I just have experience using Google (as a matter of fact, I use Startpage now).

I would not recommend Manjaro to a non-computer user, it's based on archlinux which require some expertise. They focus on users who wants to have the latest version of the software available, so it's common having that kind of problems, given than their users know how to solve them easily.

Quick guide to choose a Linux Distribution:

1. Think about the primary use you give to your computer (leisure,work,study...).
2. Search for the main programs you gonna need to use your computer for that task, for example "best video editors for Linux".
3. Watch some reviews of those programs and choose whatever you feel comfort with.
4. Once you have your list of programs, make a search to get which framework do they use. Currently, the main ones are:

- QT (KDE Plasma)
- GTK (Gnome)
- EFL (Enlightenment)

KDE, Gnome and Enlightenment are examples of WIndows Managers (draws what you see on the screen). There are a lot more, but those are the main ones.

5. Once you know that, you will have to make your list of programs use the same framework, for example, in your case, GTK.
6. If it happens that they use different frameworks, look for an alternative for the program on the framework you chosen, for example "alternatives to kdenlive gtk".
7. Once you have your framework chosen, look for a distribution that makes use of it BY DEFAULT. In the case of Gnome, and you being a non-computer user, I would recommend you Linux Mint. It's very popular and have good documentation.

You can do the first six steps on Manjaro without having to install another Linux distribution.

Quick Solution:
If it happens that you REALLY need Kdenlive, let's say for work, I would recommend you KDE Neon. I will suppose that you chosen Manjaro to be able to choose just the programs you need (that's the reason I would choose it), since most distributions come with a lot of programs installed that you probably NEVER gonna use.
KDE Neon is the distribution that the KDE developers use to test their software, so it comes just with the basic stuff, you can install the programs you need later.

Thanks a lot

If I chose Manjaro in 2017, it is first to have software like Kdenlive as recent possible and especially for its French community which is reactive and which does not lower you when you do not understand, I have Makes bitter experience with other distribution. At 62 we are harder to understanding than at 20 or 30, especially if IT is not your hobbie or work.
I have been on Linux since 2005 roughly. The change of repeated version of Windows and the impossibility of having drivers for my printer following an important Windows update, I started with Ubuntu, and miracle my printer was operational. Then I tried excursions with Fedora and Open Suse without much success.
Being a very old user of Kdenlive I was often blocked by Ubuntu on too old versions of Kdenlive that is why I chose a Rolling version and it was then either Fedora or Manjaro.
Gn, Ome was the desk that suits me best, XFCE, I tried but not also culminated by gnome. Kde, I did some attempt, I couldn't hear, I don't hang .....

To come back to my post, I will wait since all the rest works;

Thanks

I understand.

I first find out about Linux on ~2008, a friend of mine lent me a Ubuntu CD, but it was really slow on my PC. After that i tried a lot of distributions, the one I use the most was Puppy Linux. It was fast, easy to setup for someone who came from Windows, but it was visually unattractive and I wasn't able to modify it to my liking (that's the reason why I don't like Windows). Then I found Archlinux. The best distribution I found on that time: a minimal installation and modular, I could do with it what I wanted. The problem was the bandwidth: I had a slow 1 Giga/month plan. So I gave up. I often tried some distributions over the years but just for experiment.

I came back to Archlinux on pandemic: I had a lot of time to read, so I took the time to understand how all it work, that's the second thing I like about Archlinux. But the last two years I always had problems with graphics. I've never been interested on gaming, video editing or things like that, so my knowledge about that is very limited.

So that's the reason I'm here. to learn the last bits. I realized that most people here are interested just on the interface, so it's a win/win: I help to solve problems and learn about graphics in return.

I agree with you that some Linux communities are not very friendly, I THINK I post some questions on the Archlinux forum, but never get an answer. They call the forum for beginners "The Newbie Corner". That's like saying "Go in here and don't bother me". That's not very pleasant.

In terms of age, I'm not very young, I'm 42, but I don't think the Linux Community in general cares about that; they DO value knowledge, although some people try to hide their lack of knowledge on social skills by alienating those who just want to be able to use their computer. Or perhaps I'm wrong and they have another reason, i really didn't think about it.

I will not extend more, I hope you fix your problem. Adieu.