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ddennedy
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http://guide.macports.org/chunked/installing.macports.uninstalling.html


ddennedy
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That page contains the instructions that should remove all files that were downloaded; namely, those in /opt/local/var/macports, which is where downloads and build files are located. In fact, the last step is rm -rf /opt/local, which should take care of nearly everything.


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Ok I succeeded also, with thanks to this thread, more easily than I imagined. Biggest pain was registering at Apple to get Xcode (just let me get it please! yes, I am a developer from the lovely city of l;knl;kl in Andorra now send me the activation link darned!)

After that I ran 'sudo port install kdenlive' and went sleeping for a couple of hours. Then I had to run:
sudo launchctl load -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/org.freedesktop.dbus-system.plist
sudo chown $USER /Library/LaunchAgents/org.freedesktop.dbus-session.plist
launchctl load -w /Library/LaunchAgents/org.freedesktop.dbus-session.plist

- in order to get kdenlive to run. Also it did not get installed in /Applications/MacPorts/KDE4/ but in /opt/local/bin and in /opt/local/var/macports/software/kdenlive/0.7.7_0/opt/local/bin/, like happened to ramah12 before. I run it from /opt/local/bin now.


Another dumb question, is it possible to get Kdenlive from SVN so I can use the latest dev. version or is that impossible without becoming a Macports developer?


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I remember having had to install Xports on my girlfriend's Mac as well.
But as far as I remember, it was on one of the installation discs. So no registration required.
Just for info, without guarantee for correctness.
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You can still get Kdenlive from SVN. You can modify its Portfile (or better provide a local Portfile that supercedes it). Also, I use Qt Creator, and I can build and run Kdenlive SVN from within it. I think it's mainly just a matter of using cmake and open-ing the locally built .app.



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I'm one of the lucky/patient people that was able to get kdenlive to successfully install by downloading individual dependencies one at a time. I tried following the instructions of changing ownership of some plists, I then rebooted and tried open -a kdeinit4, success and then i tried open -a kdenlive and the kdenlive icon shows up on my dock and then immediately closes flashing images of the ladybug bur reporter as well. Any suggestions? I'm so stoked that I even got this far with installing it.
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I totally agree with seanedunn's complaints about the install process. But all the mentioned suggestions would need some developer working on the mac platform and I am not sure if this is the case at the moment?

I filed two bugs about mac-specific things half a year ago and never got a response

http://www.kdenlive.org/mantis/view.php?id=1367
http://www.kdenlive.org/mantis/view.php?id=1385

Though I can not comment on the current state of this problems as I am no longer using mac os. Maybe this is already fixed.
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I just sent patches to update Portfiles for Kdenlive 0.7.8, mlt 0.5.10, and frei0r-plugins 1.2.
They are not yet applied, but I expect any day now. Please make sure you upgrade ffmpeg or ffmpeg-devel and mlt in the process. The mlt port now works with either ffmpeg or ffmpeg-devel again since MacPorts has updated ffmpeg to v0.6. You can use, for example, 'sudo port -n upgrade ffmpeg' to upgrade ffmpeg without upgrading all of the dependencies, which helps to speed up the process. Repeat that for mlt, frei0r-plugins, and kdenlive.


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I improved our documentation about installing on OS X including how to make kded4 run automatically at login and how to add Kdenlive to the Dock.


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Had to create a new account due to losing my password, but anyway.

I can now report successful installation of kdenlive on Mac OSX 10.5.8, Macbook Pro 15. I've been trying for months and a number of issues prevented it from working. Without detailing my trials and tribulations, let's just say first that before starting, make doubly sure that X11 and the xcode are the very latest versions for your OS. Ditto for MacPorts. Follow all instructions to the letter. If you have already gone down the path without the proper foundations, you will get all kinds of errors: dependencies will fail, etc... after hours of compilation and you will be frustrated. Your best option then is to follow instructions for completely uninstalling MacPorts and all its installed programs: http://guide.macports.org/chunked/installing.macports.uninstalling.html.

Then start over with the instructions here: http://www.kdenlive.org/user-manual/downloading-and-installing-kdenlive/pre-compiled-packages/mac-os-x-packages-macports. Where I ran into a wall was in reading the first line 'sudo chown -R $user ~/Library/Preferences/KDE'. I could not see the tilde in my terminal or on the web page, where I was trying to do what the install instructed. I thought it was a dash. I found my error by accident, after Googling, on this site (where the author made that exact point in one of his responses to a comment): http://n0tablog.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/installing-krusader-orthodox-file-manager-on-mac-os-x/. When I increased the text size large enough, it was painfully obvious. As soon as I made the change, executing the commands, and launched kdenlive, it did not crash and took me through the initial configuration.

I hope this helps anyone who experiences what I did.

Now I have only one issue left. I started with the instruction tutorial on how to use it and it crashes. It crashes when I put in a video clip several minutes long. It gets to around 40 seconds into it and blows up. Even though I saved the project and can reopen it, if I play it, boom. Kdenlive does not do that when I put in still images on another project I'm trying. It plays through just fine. The video files are .mov clips loaded from a JVC Everio camcorder.

Any ideas on this one? If I find it first, I'll post again.

Thanks all.
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Did you know that in the last 2 days, mlt, frei0r-plugins, and kdenlive ports were all updated to their newest versions?
So, after getting all of that done, you can upgrade. :-) If you use 'port -n upgrade ...' on individual ports, then the -n option will prevent updating all dependencies. I do not think you will want to take the chance of upgrading all of Qt and KDE at this point.

As for your crash, I am not sure what to say. I do test it with a variety of files, but not much complex projects. Maybe see if the crashing is limited to that camera's file types by trying some other videos.


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Thanks, ddennedy, I had read your post about the update and I have tried to do just that, but no luck. It simply returns to the bash prompt immediately. I'm afraid I am faced with blowing everything away yet once more and putting up with hours of compilation, although I believe I will try the Qt and KDE upgrades. Can't hurt, I figure.

On the crash, it did seem to be related to choosing the correct video format, but I'll deal with that later. First thing is to get that upgrade.!

Thanks,
Mark
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Well, the upgrade went well with 'sudo port -d selfupdate' and sudo port -u upgrade outdated'. Kdenlive now seems much more stable. Am now trying to burn a DVD to see how it will come out.

Many thanks for your contributions,

Mark
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Heh, yeah, you probably did not selfupdate or sync prior to attempting to upgrade the individual packages. I did not leave step-by-step instructions.


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I finally figured out why kdenlive wouldn't ever load for me. It was because of a permissions issue that was caused by my Macintosh HD drive being checked off as "Locked." Unfortunately I've attempted to rebuild kdenlive twice and have gotten stuck at the same point.

It always seems that either py26-numpy can't build itself and requires a modification to the portfile to make it so arch flags won't being read. py26-numpy will then successfully build but cause avahi port to hang continuously at the configuration step. No one at macports has really offered me a workable solution. I guess I'll attempt to rebuild from scratch once more and see if the issue comes up and if anyone has an suggestions on what to do with py26-numpy.


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