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Kevaaq
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Secondary Colour Correction

Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:38 pm
Is it possible to do localised colour correction similar to that described in this link with Kdenlive? Can anyone recommend a good tutorial?
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Re: Secondary Colour Correction

Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:08 pm
what link?
Kevaaq
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Re: Secondary Colour Correction

Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:08 pm
Oops sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQx1ZJa_PIA
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Re: Secondary Colour Correction

Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:01 am
Yes, it can be done.

The first part, (the high/mid/low "wheels"), you can do with the curves effect, see:

http://opensource.com/life/11/11/kdenlive-part-4-colour-correction


But I guess your are mostly asking about the second part, the "secondary correction".

This you can do too, although no tutorial has been done on this yet, AFAIK.

It goes like this:

You put your clip on two tracks, one copy below the other.

Next, you apply ANY filter you want to one of the copies.

And last, you apply a composite, and adjust your selection (alpha) so that the changed track shows only in the regions you want to change.

To select the red bucket, for example, you could use the "Blue Screen", or for more precise control, the "Color Selection" effect, both from the "Alpha Manipulation" section.

Then you can do garbage masking, if needed, with "Rotoscoping" and "Alpha shapes".

You can visualize the selection with "Alpha operations", which can also soften the edges, etc.

In practice, you would probably first make the composite, and then adjust the effects on the second track, to be able to see the final result.

This procedure is probably a bit more complicated to apply, but at least as powerful and versatile as the tool shown in your link.


Some time ago I promised to add an "Alpha control" option to the basic color manipulation filters, which would allow secondary color correction to be done on a single track, but there wasn't much interest, so I went to work on other stuff.

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Re: Secondary Colour Correction

Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:11 am
Thanks for the comprehensive answer. I will have a try and see how I get on, however it does seem quite involved. I think it would good to have the ability to do this on a single track like in the video link. Perhaps you could reconsider adding this option to Kdenlive? This seems to be an important feature in the established commercial programs, although I appreciate that there are probably more important priorities for Kdenlive at the moment.
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Re: Secondary Colour Correction

Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:23 am
Actually the RGB adjustment tool already has an alpha controlled option, so it can be used to do RGB secondary correction in a single track:

1. generate your selection (alpha)

2. apply RGB adjustment with "Alpha controlled" enabled.

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Re: Secondary Colour Correction

Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:06 am
Thanks, that's great, I have just had a look at that and will experiment with it. It would be nice if some of the other effects also had an alpha controlled option. Maybe this could be added sometime in the future.
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Re: Secondary Colour Correction

Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:11 am
Another filter that can do something similar to secondary color correction is the "Key spill mop up". You can use it to de-saturate a given color.


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