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barzi
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Title clip animation very slow!

Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:44 pm
Hello!

I have tried to make a scrolling text effect by using the Animation panel embedded into the Title Clip window.
The playback becomes extremely slow and I am wondering if today, as it is 2022, it is still worth using it as it seems that you can get the same effect (and perhaps more) just by applying a Transform effect to a Title clip.

In-fact, I solved in this way: I wrote the whole text in an outside program (I used Powerpoint) with white text over black background and I imported it as .png.
Then, I applied a Lumakey effect along with with a Transform effect (ok, I added an alpha shape (mask) effect to it to make it more cool) and it works fairly smoothly.

Seriously, I may understand legacy reasons, but is it still worthy using that Animation thing?
Or am I doing something wrong?
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Re: Title clip animation very slow!

Sun May 01, 2022 9:09 pm
Seriously, I may understand legacy reasons, but is it still worthy using that Animation thing?


Yeah because there are people around the world witch don't care about professional work, they just want a text moving on the screen and don't want to learn about any other software.
There is a limited space on the canvas so if I want to tell a story or maybe do a movie credits I have to animate it inside of the text editor.
It's not the best option but trust me, some people don't care, they want fast and all inside of kdenlive.

I hope they improve this title clip one day 8-)

Peace ^-^


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Re: Title clip animation very slow!

Mon May 02, 2022 11:38 am
Makinars-Studio wrote:
Seriously, I may understand legacy reasons, but is it still worthy using that Animation thing?


Yeah because there are people around the world witch don't care about professional work, they just want a text moving on the screen and don't want to learn about any other software.
There is a limited space on the canvas so if I want to tell a story or maybe do a movie credits I have to animate it inside of the text editor.
It's not the best option but trust me, some people don't care, they want fast and all inside of kdenlive.

I hope they improve this title clip one day 8-)

Peace ^-^


Well, to me it's easier to drag the text in the timeline and then resize it and animate it directly from there.
You get what you see directly and it is way more intuitive than using that weird camera way of animating which is embedded in the title clip editor.

Peace ^_^
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Re: Title clip animation very slow!

Mon May 02, 2022 4:40 pm
I understand your point, you didn't understood mine.
When you bring a title outside of the title clip it is not a vector any more, if you resize using the transform you will lose quality so If I gonna tell a story the text needs to big and clear... Forget it!

I'm making a tutorial about it that's why I'm say is useful because it's the only way I found using just kdenlive.

I will tag you when I release it, will be more easy to understand.

Peace is necessary this days my brother, you are nice ;D
Love u


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Re: Title clip animation very slow!

Tue May 03, 2022 7:43 am
Makinars-Studio wrote:f you resize using the transform you will lose quality

you are right ... but 3 years ago' Kdenlive staff declared the titler editor obsolete and some work to rebluid everything was made ... ( https://kdenlive.org/en/2020/05/kdenliv ... an-update/ )
but the developer stops the rebuild... and right now no other developers are interested (kdenlive timeline/rendering bugs and issues are a priority to make the editor stable and increase popularity) and also just minimal changes can be made to the titler tool because this entire component of kdenlive need to be deleted on next years.

you can spot your issue here: https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kdenlive/-/issues (with PNG images directly as attachments) but... i have also 4 o 5 titler tool bugs reported without any reply.
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Re: Title clip animation very slow!

Tue May 03, 2022 10:13 am
...this entire component of kdenlive need to be deleted on next years.

Oh no!!! That's sad :(

For me it's necessary to have this kind of tool inside of kdenlive, even with the bugs still working. I wish I had more free time to help to fix it.


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Re: Title clip animation very slow!

Tue May 03, 2022 12:18 pm
I wish i had the knowledge to be helpfull with the developping :-\
Man it's free software, and yet so far professional! Thanks that i may use it and many respect for it!
Now i have to stick with helping on forums in using it. ;D

BTW i often do pre-production, in no mather what software i need for it. Always (3 decades!) have done that even when using pro-payed software in the past.
Still, how good and pro kdenlive really is, i still do some things/pre-prods for instance in openshot. Simply because sometimes that does it not always better but easier/quicker/simpler. Or in gimp, or ardour, or audacity. Or even pre-prods (bigger edits) in kdenlive before i use it in kdenlive, because that is more easy/quicker ;D
I never found one software program that could 'do everything' i wanted, or in the quality or as easy as i wanted. Same with audio productions.
I always pre-produced. Nothing wrong with that IMHO.
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Re: Title clip animation very slow!

Wed May 04, 2022 7:31 am
Makinars-Studio wrote:I understand your point, you didn't understood mine.
When you bring a title outside of the title clip it is not a vector any more, if you resize using the transform you will lose quality so If I gonna tell a story the text needs to big and clear... Forget it!

I'm making a tutorial about it that's why I'm say is useful because it's the only way I found using just kdenlive.

I will tag you when I release it, will be more easy to understand.

Peace is necessary this days my brother, you are nice ;D
Love u


Agreed! :D
Please, notify me when the tutorial is ready.
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Re: Title clip animation very slow!

Wed May 04, 2022 7:34 am
bartoloni wrote:
Makinars-Studio wrote:f you resize using the transform you will lose quality

you are right ... but 3 years ago' Kdenlive staff declared the titler editor obsolete and some work to rebluid everything was made ... ( https://kdenlive.org/en/2020/05/kdenliv ... an-update/ )
but the developer stops the rebuild... and right now no other developers are interested (kdenlive timeline/rendering bugs and issues are a priority to make the editor stable and increase popularity) and also just minimal changes can be made to the titler tool because this entire component of kdenlive need to be deleted on next years.

you can spot your issue here: https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kdenlive/-/issues (with PNG images directly as attachments) but... i have also 4 o 5 titler tool bugs reported without any reply.


I cannot spot the issue, but good to know that the titler tool will be deleted and rewritten.
Giving the sense of animating the foreground by moving the background is just weird. ;)


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