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I have no idea. I did a lot of googling and lots of talk about what it is in ffmpeg and not much examples. Lots of people wanted to use cbr and examples for that were given.
I want VBR on my encodes. Does anyone use the kdenlive gui? I get the feeling people use a lot of commandline. Here is what I have for encoding from that. This does 3000 bit something, I have no idea if it is variable or constant. The line vb=3000k sets a bit rate. f=mp4 hq=1 acodec=aac ab=%audiobitrate+'k' ar=48000 pix_fmt=yuv420p vcodec=libx264 minrate=0 vb=3000k g=250 bf=3 b_strategy=1 subcmp=2 cmp=2 coder=1 flags=+loop flags2=dct8x8 qmax=51 subq=7 qmin=10 qcomp=0.6 qdiff=4 trellis=1 aspect=%dar pass=%passes movflags=faststart |
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again not much info here
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/194088-Need-help-with-ffmpeg-2-pass-VBR-encoding last post shows this -b 3000K -minrate 0K -maxrate 8000K is that the way you set a vbr?? target is around 3000k, range from 0 to 8000k?? |
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Mediainfo or maybe ffprobe, or a decent media player should tell you if its vbr or cbr.
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did a test set this -b 3500K -minrate 0K -maxrate 8000K
render time was 01:17:24 1.7gb vs this vb=3000k render time was 02:05 1.6gb I cant see any quality difference Mediainfo gives a huge amount of info, seems to indicate both are constant bit rate on the video coded with -b 3500K -minrate 0K -maxrate 8000K yields: Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : Main@L3.0 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 1h 1mn Bit rate : 3 234 Kbps Width : 720 pixels Height : 480 pixels Display aspect ratio : 4:3 Original display aspect ratio : 4:3 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 fps Standard : NTSC Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits mediainfo vb=3000k yields html Commercial name : AVC Format profile : High@L3.0 Format settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 3 Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames Internet media type : video/H264 Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Codec ID/Url : http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone.html Codec : AVC Codec : AVC Codec/Family : AVC Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec Codec/Url : http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html Codec/CC : avc1 Codec profile : High@L3.0 Codec settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames Codec settings, CABAC : Yes Codec_Settings_RefFrames : 3 Duration : 3711742 Duration : 1h 1mn Duration : 1h 1mn 51s 742ms Duration : 1h 1mn Duration : 01:01:51.742 Bit rate : 3000000 Bit rate : 3 000 Kbps Width : 720 Width : 720 pixels Height : 480 Height : 480 pixels Pixel aspect ratio : 0.889 Display aspect ratio : 1.334 Display aspect ratio : 4:3 Original display aspect ratio : 1.333 Original display aspect ratio : 4:3 Rotation : 0.000 Frame rate mode : CFR Frame rate mode : Constant FrameRate_Mode_Original : VFR Frame rate : 29.970 Frame rate : 29.970 fps Frame count : 111241 Standard : NTSC Resolution : 8 Resolution : 8 bits Colorimetry : 4:2:0 Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 |
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ffprobe can analyze the vid made with -b 3500K -minrate 0K -maxrate 8000K
scott@scott-P5QC:~/kdenlive$ ffprobe pondtestvbr.mp4 avprobe version 0.8.4-4:0.8.4-0ubuntu0.12.04.1, Copyright (c) 2007-2012 the Libav developers built on Nov 6 2012 16:51:33 with gcc 4.6.3 Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'pondtestvbr.mp4': Metadata: major_brand : isom minor_version : 512 compatible_brands: isomiso2avc1mp41 encoder : Lavf53.21.0 Duration: 01:01:51.74, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 3580 kb/s Stream #0.0(und): Video: h264 (Main), yuv420p, 720x480 [PAR 8:9 DAR 4:3], 3233 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 30k tbn, 59.94 tbc Stream #0.1(und): Audio: aac, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 340 kb/s scott@scott-P5QC:~/kdenlive$ ffprobe can not analyze the one made with vb=3000k scott@scott-P5QC:~/kdenlive$ ffprobe -f pond.mp4 avprobe version 0.8.4-4:0.8.4-0ubuntu0.12.04.1, Copyright (c) 2007-2012 the Libav developers built on Nov 6 2012 16:51:33 with gcc 4.6.3 Unknown input format: pond.mp4 Failed to set value 'pond.mp4' for option 'f' scott@scott-P5QC:~/kdenlive$ |
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Not a lot of info on how to make something vbr that I can find.
This example says to make constant then make it min and max rates the same. I made them different and mediainfo still says constant "http://superuser.com/questions/314354/ffmpeg-constant-bitrate From the FFmpeg documentation: Set min video bitrate (in bit/s). Most useful in setting up a CBR encode: ffmpeg -i myfile.avi -b 4000k -minrate 4000k -maxrate 4000k -bufsize 1835k out.m2v So, set minrate, maxrate and bitrate to the same rate" From mediainfo, frame rate mode = constant, is that constant bit rate? otherwise, mediainfo just lists bit rate, no bitrate mode in the video section at the top, it says overall is variable, but in video does not say bit rate mode, just frame rate mode scott@scott-P5QC:~/kdenlive$ mediainfo pondtestvbr.mp4 General Complete name : pondtestvbr.mp4 Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media Codec ID : isom File size : 1.55 GiB Duration : 1h 1mn Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 3 580 Kbps Writing application : Lavf53.21.0 |
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Complete name : pondtestvbr.mp4
Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 3 580 Kbps Writing application : Lavf53.21.0 So how did you encode pondtestvbr.pm4? "From mediainfo, frame rate mode = constant, is that constant bit rate?" No that's frame rate constant versus variable. |
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I used these settings
f=mp4 hq=1 acodec=aac ab=%audiobitrate+'k' ar=48000 pix_fmt=yuv420p vcodec=libx264 minrate=0 -b 3500K -minrate 0K -maxrate 8000K g=250 bf=3 b_strategy=1 subcmp=2 cmp=2 coder=1 flags=+loop flags2=dct8x8 qmax=51 subq=7 qmin=10 qcomp=0.6 qdiff=4 trellis=1 aspect=%dar pass=%passes movflags=faststart If I change -maxrate 8000K to -maxrate 12000K would the end result be noticeable? the time to encode was much shorter by about half time using -b 3500K -minrate 0K -maxrate 8000K instead of vb=3000k |
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