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CyrilDesign
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concept art feedback

Fri May 18, 2012 9:40 pm
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First of all i want to say there is great stuff on this soft but there is a lot of things slowing me down in the process.
I'm not proud of this painting but it was my first on this soft so i don't know all the tricks but it give me a first idea.

Here is what i can say when i was trying the soft (witch i will report in the bug later)
i have the 2.4.1 version on a windows 7
i was working on a 1920x1080px canvas
There is a big problem on the hand tool to move and rotate the canvas. Keyboard shortcut work well but when i use the space bar to move the canvas it take 5 to 10 sec easy to unfreeze. This one give me really hard time. Finally i used slide bar on the side of the painting to move. Big waste of time.
Brush over ~ 400 begin to have a certain lag.
when i was finishing the concept i was around 15 layers.
Not so much, in photoshop i can have way more layers in 7680x4320px and it dosen't lag.
Gradient are slow to appears.
I don't have the courage for now to make details on this concept because it take to much time for a test.

All that say i think the soft will be better in time and i am praticly sure i will do my drawing on Krita rather than Photoshop but for now it's too slow.
I really enjoy the control of the pressure with the curve it is really amazing. The symetry drawing is awsome so as perspective rules etc.
To conclude i think a lot of good of this soft and i'm looking in the futur to use it. Good job team krita!!! You're in really good tracks! ;)

(ps : i will report all the bug in the right section.)


My website if you want to take a look ;) ---> http://cyril.jedor.free.fr
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Fri May 18, 2012 10:01 pm
Hey, good job, I like this style and painting.
I've tried the windows version and I must admit that is slower than on Linux.
I recommend you try it in linux.
:)
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nice job
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Sat May 19, 2012 1:18 am
Really good, yea, the canvas is one of the main things are slow, they will be working on that, they already know the canvas panning problem. Keep it up, they are working really good and fast in this.


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Sat May 19, 2012 1:19 am
And, like juli says, in linux is a little bit faster.


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Sat May 19, 2012 1:44 am
Thanks Yuli_bcn and artsymptom
Don't worry i'm not gonna give up on krita but i'm just a user and linux in my head is an os where we need to know a little programation an i'm not sure the 3d software i use for my work is aviable on it. So i'm stick with windows for the moment. But i'm sure the krita's team will fix thoses problems. And the soft will be better and better.


My website if you want to take a look ;) ---> http://cyril.jedor.free.fr
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Sat May 19, 2012 5:41 am
CyrilDesign wrote:linux in my head is an os where we need to know a little programation


lol. I don't know how to program anything and I've been using Linux for years. I also haven't had to download drivers from websites, use a virus scanner or clean my registry like I used to on Windows.

an i'm not sure the 3d software i use for my work is aviable on it.

What 3D software do you use? Maya is available on Linux. Max and Lightwave isn't. Blender is. XSI and Houdini... I'm not sure about.
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Sat May 19, 2012 6:20 am
I remember an article in Linux Journal on Houdini becoming available... If you're using the 2.4.1 all-of-Calligra installer, but are only interested in Krita, it might be worth it to install the krita-only installer. It tracks git master closely, so has a lot of bug fixes. I'm not sure why some things on Windows are slower -- I suspect Visual C++ needing different optimization targets. Maybe I should try the intel compiler, of cross-compile from linux...
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Sat May 19, 2012 9:51 am
Kubuntiac --> Good to know about linux ^^ I use XSI for the 3d software.
boudewijn --> i haven't found the link to download only the krita installer. Where is it? i'm really interested :P


My website if you want to take a look ;) ---> http://cyril.jedor.free.fr
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Sat May 19, 2012 10:07 am
Wow! good site Cyril , inclreible work, congratulations :)
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Sat May 19, 2012 11:03 am
Hi Cyril,
Welcome to Krit and forum, you are very skilled as i see on your website. Is interesting how bit by bit ,more painters are interested in Krita. If you need help the forum is a very good place.
I am also not a hacker and i am using Linux , the installation of Kubuntu 12.04 is really easy, but if you need start slowly (as i did and others did) you can prepare a dual boot.

Anyway, enjoy the painting process and the features of Krita. i hope to see more work from you. :D


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Sat May 19, 2012 11:53 am
Yuli_bcn --> thanks a lot.
RamonMiranda --> :D it's funny everbody wants to get me on linux. I've nothing to fear because i don't know it. So fast question. Can i make a windows 7 and a linux on the same partition of my hard drive? Because i'll keep windows just in case. I don't have two computer and i can't search on the web i have any problems.


My website if you want to take a look ;) ---> http://cyril.jedor.free.fr
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Sat May 19, 2012 8:05 pm
Hi,

Cyril wrote:
> Can i make a windows 7 and a linux on the same partition of my hard drive?

You can easily install both Kubuntu (which is a Linux KDE Distribution) and Windows 7 on the same computer (dual-boot).
This provided you have enough free space on your computer (in order to install Linux as well).
In my view, you should have at least 20-30 Gb for Kubuntu (bus, as usual, the more you leave for Linux the better).

Here you can watch a video regarding a presentation of Kubuntu 12.04:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzzthuA6 ... ature=plcp

Here you can watch a video by the same author where he explains the steps to "dual-boot" your computer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LokDqte3 ... ature=plcp

Unfortunately, when you dual-boot your computer you might encounter later some problems related to your hardware on Linux.
For instance, some notebooks are more "problematic" than others on Linux....

I highly suggest you to try Kubuntu as "live-cd" before doing any real "dual-boot" on your computer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dy6OlXhWVk

In short, you should:
1. download the ISO from the Kubuntu web-site: http://www.kubuntu.org/
2. You burn this ISO with your preferred software on Windows
3. You can try this live-cd as Linux distribution *without* affecting in any way your system: as soon as you eject this live-cd, Windows 7 starts again as usual :-)

With a live-cd the biggest advantage is to remark upfront whether there are some hardware glitches with your computer :-)
For example, with a live-cd you can verify whether you can connect your computer to Internet with Kubuntu (which will be later the first step to update your Linux distribution).
On the contrary, the biggest downside of a live-cd is that it is very SLOW compared to a "real" Linux installation.
It only suffices you to test your hardware and "get a feeling" about Kubuntu (or other Linux distributions)

BTW, I have taken a look at your web-site: congratulations for your work (many of your images are superb) :-)

It is really an honour and a privilege that you are considering to work on Krita in the future for your images :-)
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Sat May 19, 2012 8:51 pm
@CyrilDesign -- The reason for the push to linux is that for almost all of krita developers use it as there primary development platform.
Most of them don't even have computers with windows on it. Which means the team simple does not have enough developers that use windows as their primary desktop. Because of that the windows version will most likely be a little bit more buggy than the same version on linux. It is not that the developers don't care, because they do.

The community wants you to see krita at its best and until we get lots more windows developers that experience will be on linux platforms.


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Sun May 20, 2012 9:09 pm
Silvio Grosso --> Thanks for the different link and exlanation.
I've download kunbutu and start trying to install it. But when when i arrived to the partition step id didn't find a way to intsall it without formating my hard drive, + there is weird format that i didn't understand a word i didn't evenven remeber all. So i unfortunatly sotp the installation and just try the cd version.
First impression is great because it seems to be easy to use so i really want to try it and install the krita software but i can't do it if i have to format the partition to do it.
the video who show how to install dual boot is with unbutu. So is there only unbutu who can make dual boot or kunbutu can too?

The goal for me is just to test krita for the moment and you said it's really slow on the cd demo so i want to test in real conditions.

verbalshadow --> Thanks too ^^


My website if you want to take a look ;) ---> http://cyril.jedor.free.fr
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Sun May 20, 2012 9:16 pm
I think there's something called "wubi", which will install ($Foo)buntu into a file on an existing windows partition. Be aware that it's not as flexible and solid as a real installation, tough.

It is not very surprising that people here recommend to use Linux, as this is the KDE forum; KDE is primarily a desktop environment for Linux. Although there's also Windows versions of most programs, I think more than 98% of all KDE users (and developers) use it on Linux. :)


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