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Entwined

Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:06 am
Hi all,

I've been having to do a bit too much illustration and realism type work lately, so I was in the mood to create something a bit more abstract expressionist.

Why is there no preview image here? Well, it turns out that FireFox does something strange to the colours and makes it look hideous regardless of whether I save it as png or jpeg. That's why I've got a link below instead with a request:

Please. Please. Please. Don't look at this in FireFox until you've tried with *any* other app.
It looks as its supposed to in Konqueror, Chrome, Krita (obviously!). Personally I think it looks best in Gwenview set to fullscreen. :)

Link to "Entwined" (don't use FireFox)







Oh, and it's licensed under cc-by-sa.
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Re: Entwined

Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:40 am
Looks really good. Pity about Firefox...


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Re: Entwined

Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:03 am
Yeah. It's really wierd. I suspect it's something to do with colour *ahem* management, however regardless of which colour profile I use in Krita it just never seems to work in FF and always seems to work everywhere else, so I suspect it's a bug.
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Re: Entwined

Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:05 am
If what you mean is the colour look duller, then it is not really a bug. It has something to do with colour encoding. I just deleted my firefox app on my mac so I don't know how it looks at firefox. But it looks pretty here :D
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Re: Entwined

Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:48 pm
Yeah, the colours come out very faded (ie low saturation, high value). Not good for a piece that is so strongly based on colour!

Any idea how I'd go about getting the colour on this encoded "correctly"? I'd love to get this showing in this post so people can see it with a thumbnail preview in the gallery forum...
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Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:15 pm
Hm... Since firefox (with safari) are the only browsers paying attention to embedded icc profiles, it must be a problem with those. Either they cannot handle the lcms internal rgb profile we use, or you have added another profile manually. It might even be related to the Krita bug where on switching canvas the image gets darker.
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Re: Entwined

Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:12 am
I remember some bugs in FF indeed not being able to handle ICC profiles correctly. Though i can't remember the bug number.


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Re: Entwined

Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:39 am
I definitely didn't create a new profile. It looks fine in Chrome, which uses Webkit like Safari, although I'm not sure about if Chrome does colour management. I have family coming over with a mac in a few days, so I'll see how it looks in Safari.

Shouldn't Krita show with colour management? It looks fine there...
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Re: Entwined

Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:30 am
I don't think it is a bug in Krita. I've been having this problem for years. Interestingly, painter X also has this bug. I am not sure with painter XI, I haven't played with it much. I usually brightened the picture but that doesn't really solve the problem.
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Re: Entwined

Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:38 am
No, neither do I. I have my suspicions that it's FireFox, but we'll see...
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Re: Entwined

Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:31 pm
I had a similar problem except in my case the image was displayed correctly only in krita and firefox. I just switched to QPainter canvas, opened the file, and saved it again. That fixed the problem for other apps.

If I open your file in krita, the image appears exactly like in firefox. So I think it's a problem with the embedded icc profile too.
To solve the problem, I'd open the file with a program that don't read embedded profile(a basic image viewer ?), and save it to another file format, then convert it back to jpg.


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