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Re: KdenLive Mobile design idea

Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:34 pm
Do people really want to try and edit video on a tablet or phone?

I certainly can not think of doing that .

What is the demand for that feature ?
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Re: KdenLive Mobile design idea

Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:45 pm
ttguy wrote:Do people really want to try and edit video on a tablet or phone?

I certainly can not think of doing that .

What is the demand for that feature ?


Actually Yes.... If you would have asked that from me 5 years ago, I would have laughed you out of the room even asking that someone would use a phone to edit videos :-D

But let's look the image editors side, like example Snapseed for Android. It is just marvelous application. You have "Smart layers" and it works like a "Layer masks". So you can easily stack filters and then jump to any filter in the stack and delete it, edit its parameters OR you can draw a layer mask on what areas it is getting applied with 0-25-50-75-100% efficiency.

And as a photographer, it is truly a very efficient tool. It actually needs just couple tools to be truly amazing. 1) Curves 2) Levels and 3) denoise algorithms.
Then when Google (owns the Snapseed) manages to implement a non-destructive fileformat (something like DNG, at least Snapseed got capability to read DNG in last big update) for export so we can save the file edits and then open file back later and continue editing or alter the edits, then it is truly great.

Adobe made just on Christmas 2015 the Adobe Lightroom for Android (mobile) free, it was first behind the Adobe Rent Service, but they learned that mobile version needs to be free. It has those few tools missing from Snapseed, but the editing otherwise really is from butt.

So why not for videos? We have great tools for photograms, as I can just take photo, copy it from camera to phone/tablet in few seconds over WiFi hotspot the camera creates. And then open the image to snapseed and edit it and send away.

So why not for videos?? I would just love to get the video from the camera (excellent stabilization), get couple video files actually, lay them from library to the timeline (give me 2-3 timelines for video and 1-2 for background audio), cut them and get few effects between cuts, have couple possible effects per cut like black and white with curves, a slowmotion/fast motion and then finally just export it to the final M4V to be shared.

I could do that with iPhone because there is the iMovie or what ever Apple calls it now (I don't like Apple products) but not for Android.

Like lets look the "Whatsapp" -application feature. You click "Attach" you choose the video, and you get nice trimmer for both ends. And you just trim the video file to part you want and then you send it. Just excellent, great, awesome! Get the video, trim the video, name the cut and send it.
Great as long you want to send just the one file.

But we work today a lot with better cameras than what the phones or tablets has. We can even easily copy the files from cameras to mobile device and.... share as is them? No thanks!

Google had at Android 3.0 version a simple video editor, oh it was very nice start as you got this position dial and tracks. You imported files to project and laid them to timeline etc. But it was crash lover, all the time just crashed and then finally it was gone in Android 4.0 like it never existed. Maybe it was challenging too much the new Youtube video editor and Google saw that it was a threat that people would start sending video files directly between them instead uploading first to Youtube.
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Re: KdenLive Mobile design idea

Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:12 pm
It probably strongly depends on what kind of video you want to produce ... and thus what kind or amount of editing/post production you need.

I'm using a 12" tablet (MS Surface 3 Pro) for producing raw video footage via an HDMI/DP recorder. This is because I use the Surface Tab with an active pen to draw illustrations. At this time, I would not dare to edit on the tablet, because its too inconvenient for the amount of post processing I need to do: large screen, ShuttlePro, keyboard, mouse. But I can imagine simpler post processing, where a tablet fits in. I'm not talking about those horrible iWhatever videos that people think would look great. Great as ten thousend burgers in a row. ;D

Over Xmas I toyed around with connecting my Behringer USB mixer directly to my Android Samsung 10" tablet. There's a decent audio recording and mixing app in the Google Play market that comes with really good USB audio realtime capability. I hooked all this up to my studio mic and did some test recordings. Quite good, easy to use. I wouldn't do the audio post processing on the Android tab, but that's rather because I'm hooked up to Audacity that has this incredible noise reduction filter. (I need this when working with wireless levalier mics, never for my studio mic). Audacity on a Surface Pro would be possible, albeit Audacity isn't something you want to use with touch ... yet.


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