sir_herrbatka wrote:there is no way to do it. Inkscape does not care about the standard cursor theme.

As for the spec, it is covered (mostly with symlinks).

it is? even with respect to no-drop and not-allowed? (because oxygen mixes them up)

I like these cursors quite a bit
http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/17/zrzut99.png

but the thumbs look a little off and squarish. Here's what I would prefer with the thumbs rounded somewhat.
http://i.imgur.com/QKXGgzQ.png
You can probably even do a better job than mine, but I liked them so much and then those square thumbs started bugging me so I had to change it. I also slightly adjusted the bottom right to make it one pixel less square and completed the shading on the inside bottom and thumb.

I vote against the lines in the hands too (if thats still a question).

Great job guys.

sir_herrbatka wrote:well, this looks really good!

http://wstaw.org/m/2014/03/17/zrzut99.png

Hopefully krita won't get angry after stealing icons from them!

Awesome job! i like the result, indeed

but, doesnt the second hand, has to be closed like grabbing something?

Hrrm... Idea meet wall.



In order:
Alt. Cursor, Cursor, Help,
Working, Busy, Precision,
Text, Handwriting, No Access,
Vertical, Horozontal, Diag1,
Diag2, Move, Pointer

Re-drawn in inkscape, no gradients. Ripped the colours and general thin lines from a screenshot of what I'm assuming is the next oxygen. Retained the current shape of the default cursor since it feels like it wouldn't be KDE without it. Crit?

i really love the idea of a sharper-pointed, flatter oxygen, and your execution. your work gives a portal-y vibe

i have only one issue: due to antialiasing, diagonal lines look greyer than vertical and horizontal ones (especially noticable on the diagonal resize vs the vertical resize)

/edit: and the pointer is a bit fat-fingered

Crit?

Contrast. There is not enough of contrast (well, unless you think that gray on gray is the best usability direction).

but, doesnt the second hand, has to be closed like grabbing something?

nope ;]

it is? even with respect to no-drop and not-allowed? (because oxygen mixes them up)

no-drop and not-allowed are seperated in the new cursor theme.

but the thumbs look a little off and squarish

ok, no problem. Fixed.

@Kver Well done, mate!

It will need real-world testing (just like the others will), but it seems to be a nice fit for the default plasma theme!

sir_herrbatka wrote:

it is? even with respect to no-drop and not-allowed? (because oxygen mixes them up)

no-drop and not-allowed are seperated in the new cursor theme.

they are in oxygen, too, but the wrong way around. it should be:

• no-drop: Typically rendered as the default cursor with a small circle with a diagonal line through it (⬉ø)
• not-allowed: Often rendered as circle with a diagonal line through it. (Ø)

oxygen has no-drop: Ø and not-allowed: ⬉ø

Kver wrote:Hrrm... Idea meet wall.

I think those look really nice! Still not sure about the tilted hand, since I'm used to a non-tilted hand. I would have to test it out to see how it feels like.

@Kver awesome but i'm also not sure about the tilted hand

@Kver great job! Maybe the tilted hand is too tilted. What about having it in the same angle as the arrow?

Contrast. There is not enough of contrast

I think that we could truly judge this is we have usable theme, so we could try this. And honestly, I don't think it should be dark as hell to be usable.




IMHO It's great job and I'm looking forward to use them!

I also think it would be nice to combine them with legna's hand. What do you guys think?

And honestly, I don't think it should be dark as hell to be usable.

Yeah but pale gray border everywhere? No way…

sir_herrbatka wrote:

And honestly, I don't think it should be dark as hell to be usable.

Yeah but pale gray border everywhere? No way…

i don’t think it’s pale. those look very usable on everything but snowland camouflage.

and anyone who uses that as desktop background surely doesn’t care about contrast.

sir_herrbatka wrote:Contrast. There is not enough of contrast (well, unless you think that gray on gray is the best usability direction).

Agreed, I'll be completly honest; I loooove me my dark cursors so the white ones were a bit neglected. I'll give the white set some TLC and up the contrast, rework the outlines a bit. Some of the icons in that set are actually missing some outlines too, and I think when I fiddle with the lines on the directional cursors the contrast will be more pronounced if I can get it less fuzzy.

The dark style is good enough in the contrast department though, I threw them over-top a few backgrounds and screenshots and they didn't make me strain despite my fuzzy eyesight.

no-drop and not-allowed are seperated in the new cursor theme.

Really.... Aside from the no-drop and not-allowed cursors, are there any others missing which I should add? I don't work with cursors so if I missed anything please point it out so I can include it in the next revision.

EDIT: Just found a link to the freedesktop cursor specification.

flying sheep wrote:i have only one issue: due to antialiasing, diagonal lines look greyer than vertical and horizontal ones (especially noticable on the diagonal resize vs the vertical resize)

I agree, I fought with the thin lines, including half-pixel offsets. I don't like them, even though they currently "fit", I'm also concerned about the clarity of ultra-thin lines being difficult to spot - especially on top of a theme where many icons with similar traits. I'll produce a few variants to see if I can minimise the effect, and I'll also add a a set with a 2px line thickness.

flying sheep wrote:/edit: and the pointer is a bit fat-fingered

(Various people on the tilted hand)

... Fat fingered?!?! It was modeled off my own glorious hand!

In all seriousness, I'll produce a few variants on the hand, including some rotations and one that's pointed vertically. I'll wind up fiddling with the fingers on rotated versions anyway when I line them up for pixel-precision, so there will be some variation there which may alleive the sausage fingers.


On another note: are there any simple tutorials anywhere on how to make these things into an installable icon package? I got the cursor plugin for Gimp and I've exported some of the animated cursors (busy & working), but I'm at a loss on what needs to be done after that. Also, anything special needed to make Wayland versions?