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[Design Project] Klipper

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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:34 pm
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Altro giro, altro regalo!
("Another round, another gift!")

EDIT: didn't try the wrench icon because I can't find it in the VDG resources sheet, I'll search it as soon as I can.
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:58 pm
looks good, can you try to make the search field the whole width. I just checked with other plasmoids and the instant messaging applet uses the whole width (if needed I can upload a screenshot)
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:13 pm
Looks really better with the search box like this!
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:19 pm
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:25 pm
So, let's say (and it's not the case since we should hear other users too) this is the chosen design.
What should we/I/someone do to help you making this an actual application?
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:30 pm
I'll answer tomorrow - I notice that I'm no longer in a state to reply 90 min before match starts.
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:33 pm
How about changing the search box to a search & filter bar/box?
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:44 pm
EraX wrote:How about changing the search box to a search & filter bar/box?
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I really like the design of the search bar!
I don't know about the filter, I don't find it very useful: let's keep in mind that's only a clipboard history manager, it should not contain <9000 items, am I wrong?
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:12 pm
I like Erax's suggestion. I think Klipper should be extended to support more than just plain text and for that the filter could be useful, especially for other media such as images where it makes sense to "merge" single selections.
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:49 pm
edmael wrote:
EraX wrote:How about changing the search box to a search & filter bar/box?
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I really like the design of the search bar!
I don't know about the filter, I don't find it very useful: let's keep in mind that's only a clipboard history manager, it should not contain <9000 items, am I wrong?


I tend to agree: Does a clipboard history really contain so many items that a filter by type is necessary?
@mgraesslin: How many entries can the history hold?

Regardless, the label should not say "Search & Filter". All existing filter bars we found use the label "search" because users think of searching anyway, even if it's actually a filter.

Over all, I like the design! Much cleaner than the current Klipper.
Once the design of the main Plasmoid is finished, we have to think about how users will access Klipper's advanced features, though. Would right-clicking be the only way to access them, or should there be some element on the main Plasmoid to access them as well?
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:29 pm
> How many entries can the history hold?

Technically up to "2^31-1" - or when you run out of memory ;-)
Ie. there's virtually no hard limit - it depends on how much the user/GUI can reasonably handle.
Atm. it's capped at iirc. 7 entries by default and 2048 at max.

The real benefit of clipper is however not that you have a list of recent clipboard selections, but that the selection of a client exceeds that clients lifetime (w/o clipper the clipboard content is gone when you close the window that you ctrl+c'd from) and to automize actions on selection.

For the history to be really useful, klipper would have to be able to intercept pasting (capture ctrl+v or use a dedicated shortcut) and paste the actvated item directly into the active client - eg. by faking "Shift+Insert" (what should unlike ctrl+v paste the secondary selection on all X11 clients)
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:32 pm
colomar wrote:
edmael wrote:
EraX wrote:How about changing the search box to a search & filter bar/box?
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I really like the design of the search bar!
I don't know about the filter, I don't find it very useful: let's keep in mind that's only a clipboard history manager, it should not contain <9000 items, am I wrong?


I tend to agree: Does a clipboard history really contain so many items that a filter by type is necessary?
@mgraesslin: How many entries can the history hold?

Regardless, the label should not say "Search & Filter". All existing filter bars we found use the label "search" because users think of searching anyway, even if it's actually a filter.

Over all, I like the design! Much cleaner than the current Klipper.
Once the design of the main Plasmoid is finished, we have to think about how users will access Klipper's advanced features, though. Would right-clicking be the only way to access them, or should there be some element on the main Plasmoid to access them as well?


I think the cog/wrench/whatever icon on the top-right should give access to the advanced options and the "clean all" stuff.
The arrow on the side of the "active" voice (aka the right "down arrow" that appears when the mouse hover a voice) should give access to the advanced feature of a voice.
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:08 pm
edmael wrote:I think the cog/wrench/whatever icon on the top-right should give access to the advanced options and the "clean all" stuff.
The arrow on the side of the "active" voice (aka the right "down arrow" that appears when the mouse hover a voice) should give access to the advanced feature of a voice.


Okay!
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:42 am
edmael wrote:So, let's say (and it's not the case since we should hear other users too) this is the chosen design.
What should we/I/someone do to help you making this an actual application?


what I mostly need is a good set of QML files which allows me to hook in the model I'm going to write. Best is if it gets as close to being a Plasmoid as possible.
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Re: [Design Project] Klipper

Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:46 am
colomar wrote:@mgraesslin: How many entries can the history hold?

the config interface allows 2048, but I assume it could be more.

colomar wrote:Once the design of the main Plasmoid is finished, we have to think about how users will access Klipper's advanced features, though. Would right-clicking be the only way to access them, or should there be some element on the main Plasmoid to access them as well?


I want all the advanced feates being integrated into the Plasmoid.


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