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[quote="bjoernbalazs"]This is really appealing! I appreciate your work!
To bring it one step ahead I would like to raise some questions: How will it adjust to smaller screens? The design is pixel perfectly fitting with a rather large minimum width. Can you hold the high quality in design on smaller screens too? This is an area that we need to develop even more. However, I think that we can definitively adapt to a smaller area by adding a scroll bar that works in similar ways that mobile devices use these days to accommodate information that is longer than the screen allows. I am also lenient to make the system settings width be the same so as to make designers adjust to the space constraint. Much of what we have now for space used/wasted deals mostly with the lack of constraints that the physical system settings window poses IMHO. |
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I love the layout and would like to generalize the idea. Some (unsorted) questions:
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Anditosan,
Please don't take this as me saying that i don't like your mockups, i think they're really great! This morning i had an idea that could create a bit more room for displaying the settings pages themselves so i thought i'd do a really quick mockup & post it in case it helps at all. I'm supposed to be packing to go on my honeymoon not doing this so it's a bit rough round the edges but the idea should come across. The link is: http://element-6.deviantart.com/art/Mod ... 1401357018 |
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Ah, that could work well for smaller sizes! What might be call is to apply adaptive layout to the whole thing (i.e. presenting things in different ways depending on the available space), though that might give the developers hell. Have a nice honeymoon! |
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An adaptive layout would be cool, something like what websites already do with mobile and desktop versions of pages. If I could supply my own personal opinion (whatever that is worth) ![]() ![]() |
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I fully agree! Plasma Desktop is only for desktop / Laptop computers, on tablets we switch to Plasma Active, and it's better that way. However, we should not assume that everyone has a full HD screen. Especially laptops may still have lower screen resolution, so we should support them. Currently our official minimum supported screen resolution is 1024x768px. That does not mean we should not use more space if it's available, of course, hence the idea to have adaptive layouts. |
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Is the classical indentation approach no option for you? You click on the category and the subcategories appear indented below the top category. This is really easy to understand and would be more consistent with applications.
Get what I mean? What speaks against it? If properly designed this will certainly look good. |
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Anditosan,
just to say that i had a sense of deja-vu about the icon for 'Workspace' but i couldn't put my finger on why. lt came to me a few minutes ago, it was way back when i was a Ubuntu user in it's Gnome 2 days and had a taskbar applet to indicate my CPU temperature, After a bit of searching I found a couple of pics of what i think the thing looked like: http://www.lucidtips.com/wordpress/wp-c ... inux-7.png http://www.lucidtips.com/wordpress/wp-c ... inux-9.png I don't know if that's similar enough to make you want to change yours & i've really no idea at all what i'd put on an icon for 'Workspaces' - i just thought i'd let you know! Colomar - Thanks, I just hope the weather improves (it's raining ![]() |
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I really like this idea, too. This will be especially useful on smaller screens. OFF-TOPIC Can someone contact the forum administration and ask for a subforum for the SystemSettings redesign? I had no luck in contacting them, maybe I did it wrong, I don't know. Anyway, I keep loosing track of where the discussions about SystemSettings happen as the forum gets fuller. The forum sadly makes it very easy to keep losing track of things. |
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This would make it work better in screens with lower resolution and also offer more visual space to the lower levels of the settings. |
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For the opening settings screen why not have the initial systemsettings screen display "at a glance" tasks & Information;
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2ZTq0OEC9rvN3ZWek9VQzhQOUU/edit?usp=sharing I'm not sure what heuristics we have, but I think we should avoid having the initial screen be static information; Having some real system info and maybe some functionality would make the main settings screen much more useful. The "Quick Settings" section would be quick one-off features the user could quickly manage without needing to go deep into KCMs; I figure most people have one or two things they might regularly visit the panel for, so having the ability to put at least some of them on the landing page would get people in-and-out far faster. They would need to be programmed separatly though, and I don't know how feasable it is on a technical level. I also only have boolean options here, but depending on what can be done at a technical level I would be interested in seeing how far it can go. Anyway, B-E-A-utiful work!
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If you switch from symbol view to the classical tree you have it right now (with more than two levels). Why not using it in future SySe? Because it's a little bit boring, has a 90th style, regular users are not comfortable with trees, and KDE should have a special branding. Just to bring up some ideas for discussion.
I like the idea although the start screen is less clearly arranged in your mockups. And the updater as used by Canonical is not a standard tool (e.g. Arch Linux has two mechanisms, one for default packages and another for the user repository). Last but not least I would miss the outstanding symbols since it feels like "Don't panic, written in big friendly letters on the cover..." |
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I have to say! I L-O-V-E that transformation! I have no idea if it can be done code wise or how, but I think it goes in line with what you see in many mobiles these days that have the most screen constraint. |
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Hmmm... I know we have the option to set default programs to do things like web browsing and email; is there any reason why we don't have a "software managemnt" default application option? It's a pretty big part of the system, and I think it's something that should maybe be looked at in a seperate thread. Hrm... I agree that my mockup isn't as friendy, but someone better at UI design could run with it; but I don't think we should sacrifice functionality on such an important landing page. It's really nice to have a welcome screen, but once you've seen it once it becomes a roadblock to getting things done; if you access a settings screen once a week that's 51 times a year you didn't need to be welcomed. As visually wonderful as the "big icon" welcome screen is, it leans too hard towards 'looking friendly' vs being 'usable' - it looks great but would really only get in the way. No matter what though the UI is going to be a step up, as the current systemsettings 'home' is just a mishmash of icons.
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