[Design feedback wanted] Keyboard layout switcher

Re: [Design feedback wanted] Keyboard layout switcher

Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:27 pm

Heiko Tietze wrote:I think we can assess the results of the short survey now. Out of 350 voters in total we get some kind of Pareto distribution: about 80% want the shiny new stuff and 20% prefer to switch the layout on left-click. In some comments the participants explicitly appreciate consistency (left click plus select) over their current workflow (left = toggle).

Summing up, it would be wrong to use left-click. But we should really consider to make the shiny stuff optional since 20% plus a high percentage of the agreers wants to toggle by left-click. Configuration is necessary anyway, to get rid of the OSD. The use case of type (cyrillic), switch (en), type (something like a unit in en), switch (ru), type (cyrillic) etc. is probably very common.

As for the OSD: Before adding an option for turning it off (or maybe in addition to that), can we please work on making it suck less for everyone? If we end up with something that everyone who isn't too lazy to do so will switch off, we have bad design, not the power of choice.

If we end up with an OSD that is useful for some, but still annoying for others, an option to turn it off is best, but an option to turn something off should not bve implemented just to avoid having to improve something.

PS: Two comments remind us on touch screen and Plasma Active. Maybe it's a good idea to have common concepts.

Well, for touch screens things are different: There, the layout switcher should be directly attached to the virtual keyboard, not sit in the system tray. Therefore, the two will have little in common.

colomar Registered Member Posts 947 Karma 2 OS	Re: [Design feedback wanted] Keyboard layout switcher Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:27 pm Heiko Tietze wrote:I think we can assess the results of the short survey now. Out of 350 voters in total we get some kind of Pareto distribution: about 80% want the shiny new stuff and 20% prefer to switch the layout on left-click. In some comments the participants explicitly appreciate consistency (left click plus select) over their current workflow (left = toggle). Summing up, it would be wrong to use left-click. But we should really consider to make the shiny stuff optional since 20% plus a high percentage of the agreers wants to toggle by left-click. Configuration is necessary anyway, to get rid of the OSD. The use case of type (cyrillic), switch (en), type (something like a unit in en), switch (ru), type (cyrillic) etc. is probably very common. As for the OSD: Before adding an option for turning it off (or maybe in addition to that), can we please work on making it suck less for everyone? If we end up with something that everyone who isn't too lazy to do so will switch off, we have bad design, not the power of choice. If we end up with an OSD that is useful for some, but still annoying for others, an option to turn it off is best, but an option to turn something off should not bve implemented just to avoid having to improve something. PS: Two comments remind us on touch screen and Plasma Active. Maybe it's a good idea to have common concepts. Well, for touch screens things are different: There, the layout switcher should be directly attached to the virtual keyboard, not sit in the system tray. Therefore, the two will have little in common.
david_edmundson KDE Developer Posts 359 Karma 1 OS	Re: [Design feedback wanted] Keyboard layout switcher Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:02 am OSD no longer appears on passive changes. (i.e will only appear from the keyboard shortcut)
colomar Registered Member Posts 947 Karma 2 OS	Re: [Design feedback wanted] Keyboard layout switcher Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:37 pm david_edmundson wrote:OSD no longer appears on passive changes. (i.e will only appear from the keyboard shortcut) Great, thanks! Let's keep on trying to find out what people find annoying about the OSD. Then we can see whether it's something everyone would find annoying or just some users.

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