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[Bug/Discussion] - Notifications and system tray intefere

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Sogatori
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Bug #338946
Description

When turning off WiFi in the network plasmoid, a notification saying the connection is lost, appears. Clicking on the close button will close the systray popup, you have to click the X a second time to actually close it.

Reproducible:
Always

Steps to Reproduce:
  1. Open Plasma NM
  2. Turn off WiFi
  3. Click on the resulting notification's close button
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Actual Results:
System tray popup closes

Expected Results:
Notification closes

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Martin Klapetek
..and what do you think should happen?

Given the close button on the notification popup has focus (from hover), it should close only the notification popup or at least close it first.
The systray popup closes immediately after it looses focus, so clicking the notification popup actually makes the systray popup loose focus, then it animates any maaaybee kwin puts it over the notification, so your click actually ends up in the systray popup (wild guessing here however).


Thomas Pfeiffer
This is just a symptom of a more general problem: That notifications appear at the same place as the systray popup.

We could solve this either by positioning the notifications elsewhere. Personally I'd like to put them on the top-right corner by default, but allow users to move them wherever they want them. If the user clicks the notifications icon in the systray, however, they should of course still be shown in the sytray popup.


Kai Uwe Broulik
What about moving the popups out of the way when the systray popup is opened? Ie. they move up by whatever height the systray popups size is? Don't know if/how that is possible.
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I agree with kbroulik here. I think if the system tray popup is opened the notification should be moved up/down (y-axis) so that it ends up above/below the popup.
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Can we please please keep the discussion in the bug report only? There's no point to discuss it in two places. And there's also not much to discuss, the report was confirmed, meaning "we accept this and we'll look into it".

Thanks

EDIT: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338946


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I am sorry, I misunderstood the meaning of "confirmed". For me "confirmed" meant "yes it's a problem", not "yes, we want implement X".

We have decided that we would like to discuss VDG matters here in future if someone wants to know the VDG's stance on an issue. The bugtracker is not the best place to have such discussions.
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I'm afraid that messing with notification looks like a dirty hack in the end. Let's assume we have a manager, some kind of stacked panels, it still pops up the same info twice (by the way, what happens in case of more than one connection?). Closing a connection intentionally or disabling WIFI is not loosing it, IMHO. So why don't be silent in this particular case?


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