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Breeze zoom-out action icons, arrow points the wrong way

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Tachyon
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I just noticed this, and thought I'd put it out there because I think it can be improved. It seems to me that Breeze's zoom-out icons (zoom-out, zoom-out-x, x-zoom-out, et al.) don't actually make any sense. If you look at the zoom-in icons, for comparison, you can see that there is an arrow pointing from a "small" box out towards a "large" box - it's clearly suggesting the action is to make the small thing bigger. The zoom-out icons, though, also have an arrow pointing from a "small" box out to a "large" box. The only thing that differentiates them from the zoom-in icons is a rotation of 180 degrees, but why should the orientation of the icon have any meaning for a zoom operation? If you look at the icon without already having learned which way it should be facing, the suggestion - zooming in, when it should suggest zooming out - is the same! (I'd bet you could swap zoom-in and zoom-out icons and practically no-one would notice.)

The obvious solution as I see it is to change the direction of the arrows on the zoom-out action icons, so that the arrow points from the "big" box in towards the "smaller" box.

I hope this suggestion is taken seriously, and thanks for the great work!
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I think we're meant to imagine the arrows as going in to or out of the screen. Like the direction the "camera" will move.
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That's an interesting hypothesis, but I think that idea has the same problem: what is there to indicate the "camera direction" in or out of the screen? With the Breeze icons as flat and abstract as they are, there isn't anything I can see to tell me, as a user, that "arrow pointing down and to the left" is supposed to mean "away from the viewer" and "same arrow but pointing up and to the right" means "towards the viewer".
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Uri made New zoom icons for 5.5 so do you talk about the zoom icons from 5.5 or the older ones.
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Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:09 pm
andreas_k wrote:Uri made New zoom icons for 5.5 so do you talk about the zoom icons from 5.5 or the older ones.


I managed to find the new ones in here: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/breeze/repository/revisions/master/show/icons/actions/24 (seems I was looking at an older mirror when I tried to check earlier). Wouldn't you know it, the alterations for 5.5 do address the exact issue I was describing of the 5.4 icons. Wonderful!

Apologies for the noise. (Darn time-travelling devs fixing problems before I've raised them! ;) )
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The same thing was bothering me, glad to hear that it's already been fixed. :)


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