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The imperfections in Neon have nothing to do with Neon not complying with Canonical's policies but are rather due to the raw, aggressive, semi-automated development model. Not only the product is under development but the tools as well, so I'm confident.
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If the maintainers explicitly state in their FAQ that any application from the repository can stop working at any time and that they will not provide support for it, it is NOT something that can be used in a production environment, no matter whether it has an LTS suffix or anything else. Period. Such system can be used for testing, for development, as a playground, but production environment is out of question. Of course any system can have problems after an upgrade, but maintainers of a complete system are responsible for helping out with any problem, especially if it is related to an application from its repository.
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If this https://neon.kde.org/faq is what you've made reference to, then I can't see any explicit statement according to which any application from the repository can stop working at any time. But I agree to the fact that Neon won't provide any kind of support whatsoever.
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@rocky7x Then witch Plasma-based OS do you recommend for production? If Kubuntu, which version? I'm also interested in other than Neon or Kubuntu production-ready Plasma OSs.
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Then you have not read it carefully enough
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Such as? Have you encountered any in particular? Which is production-ready? https://community.kde.org/Distributions
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I'm still trying to find it, I'm currently using Maui, but since they plan to discontinue it, and Mint KDE is stopped as well, I'm afraid we are losing options.. I don't want a non-deb distro since a I don't have time to fiddle with it and learn the new type of system..
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Okay. Thanks. You can already test the daily Bionic.
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Just to answer your last question: during my short experience with Neon, I have indeed not encountered an app that would not install due to some dependency issues or not work because of a Plasma update. But I also am not going through the whole repository trying to install each and every app.. So what I haven't encountered, someone else might and in that case that one is left alone without any support or help (of course if that is not a KDE app).
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Neither have I. Thank you. Indeed Neon and Kubuntu are the only eligible in the deb world.
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PS: you can always compensate with a trendy appimage, flatpack or ELF binary, should you miss anything and you probably will.
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If I recall right, development of 5.12 will start in January and Bionic will release in April. Which means Kubuntu 18.04 will ship with 5.12. Sounds good.
The clock is ticking. If you want to participate in the shaping of Kubuntu 18.04, you better start now (if you havn't already).
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Indeed, those sandboxed apps are also a possibility, but Flatpak apps look like apps on Windows 95
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The Libre Office appimage is Breeze all the way. Breeze (dark) is the nicest theme ever. I always change to breeze dark and application dashboard but other than that nothing. It's the only desktop that looks great out of the box.
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As an example at that day :
Neon user : plasma 5.11.4 , kde apps 5.41.0, qt 5.9.3 Neon lts : plasma 5.8.8, kde apps 5.41.0, qt 5.7.1 Maui : plasma 5.11.3 kde apps 5.40.0, qt 5.9.1 Fully functional Neon lts and Maui. Neon user unable to use digikam, have to wait for digikam 5.8. Maui is the most up to date and functional system you can propose to your friend and that will check its backport applications. Sm |
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