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Neon Stability

Is Neon stable enough for you?

Poll ended at Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:41 am

Yes it's great!
41%
Yes, but could use improvement
41%
Undecided about it yet
No votes
No, but I still use it
12%
No way...had to remove it
6%

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Neon Stability

Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:41 am
Well I've had a few glitches with Neon here and there, but now I've had to go back to Kubuntu 16 LTS as Neon has been too buggy and unstable. I tried Neon LTS for more stability, but it just wasn't stable enough for me either. My computer is on 24/7 crunching data and it's also my daily workstation so I need it to be rock solid. After a few glitches and crashes, I had to pull the plug and install Kubuntu instead. I really wish it was better and I'll definitely check on it from time to time as I like the vanilla installation. But it's just not quite there for everyday use.
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Re: Neon Stability

Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:12 am
Report your bugs with the respective packages at neon.kde.org


Hi, I'm Ivan, a competent computer user (which means geek to most). I run KDE neon Developer when it works and KDE neon User when Developer doesn't work.
Hope I helped you with any problems you may have had :)
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Re: Neon Stability

Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:22 am
Already done...but that doesn't make it more stable today though. I like it...but I must have a solid system and the constant updates seem to break things as it introduces new bugs while fixing others.

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Re: Neon Stability

Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:56 am
There is something wrong.
As Kubuntu may be more stable than kde neon?
They have the same basic core, ubuntu 16.04 lts
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Re: Neon Stability

Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:12 pm
gyanny wrote:There is something wrong.
As Kubuntu may be more stable than kde neon?
They have the same basic core, ubuntu 16.04 lts

Yes they have the same core, but Plasma is different and newer. Newer is not always better.
Kubuntu 14 was good. Yet 15 sucked and felt like a beta test version for 16. And now 16 is good. I don't know what 17 will be like but I'll take it for a test drive next month.
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Re: Neon Stability

Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:33 pm
Considering how close Neon is to the "bleeding edge" with Plasma, it's fair to consider Neon very, very, stable. In my experience, Neon is not perfect, but many distributions (e.g., Kubuntu, Mint) claim to achieve the goal of greater stability without actually achieving it. And, perhaps more relevant, Neon is much more stable than that other OS.

I'm very impressed with the Devs. They've accomplished truly impressive work.


Lenovo T460s, Neon, Netrunner, Kubuntu
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Re: Neon Stability

Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:05 am
Hi guys,

Stability is a generic formulation. I think we should be more specific. Oh, there's inbuilt bug report functionality. Let's use it. You won't get a better Plasma experience elsewhere other than Neon. For what it packs, it's quite stable.


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Re: Neon Stability

Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:41 pm
raddison wrote:Hi guys,
Stability is a generic formulation. I think we should be more specific. Oh, there's inbuilt bug report functionality. Let's use it.

Been there, done that. But reporting a bug that is making my computer unusable doesn't help me today as it takes a while to track and squash the bug. I run numerous programs that require a stable OS and it's up 24/7 crunching for me. Waking up to find a program crashed and my data is lost or simply not processed, is not a fun way to start my day.
You won't get a better Plasma experience elsewhere other than Neon.

Unfortunately I disagree as "better" is subjective. You won't get a "newer or more up to date" experience, but an experience that doesn't work is not better. And I get basically the same Plasma experience in Kubuntu 16.x and it's much more stable for me. Whatever is newer in Plasma doesn't really do much for me. When I first switched from Kubuntu to Neon months ago, it was fairly stable and I was pleased with the vanilla installation that I could add to without having to slice and dice to get it the way I like. But the push to newer Plasma versions has made things too unstable. I've had several third-party programs crash, and worse is that KDE programs like Settings, Discover, Klipper would crash, among other issues.

For instance, I had a serious memory leak (?) in Plasmashell when running the Boinc project manager. When closed, no problem, but open the manager and the system would gobble resources to the point that Neon would become laggy within hours forcing a reboot. While some claim this is the result of a known bug, I have no such issues in Kubuntu with the manager running for days, and Kubuntu runs for weeks or months without issue. Not sure why this occurs with just Boinc in Neon for me.
For what it packs, it's quite stable.

But is it stable enough? For you perhaps, but not for me. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Neon concept, but I need stability first and foremost as this is my daily workstation and it must be 100% stable (Prime95 and Memtest used to check hardware stability).

I'll be keeping my eye on Neon and will run the Live system from time to time to check and evaluate it in virtual box. But until it can run completely stable, it's off my list for now.
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Re: Neon Stability

Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:35 pm
@compatico Some good points, yes. I'll try to use better wording. The poll (as it looks right now) is pretty close to factual reality, although some things are rather hard to quantify due to factors that are relative and/or subjective.


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Re: Neon Stability

Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:19 pm
@compatico Been thinking about it. Why don't you try Maui? It's claimed to be stable. As for me, I'm sticking with Neon. I don't run mission critical apps.


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Re: Neon Stability

Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:04 pm
I'm late to the party here, but I've had pretty much the same experience as the OP. I think it all really boils down to hardware though. I have three computers - a desktop PC, and two laptops (a ThinkPad T470p and a Defiance II). Neon is very buggy on both my laptops (and I've tried every single edition - user/dev stable/unstable), but works flawlessly on my Desktop (a 4th gen Intel i7-4790 with a GTX 1070). Kubuntu is really buggy on my desktop though.
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Re: Neon Stability

Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:10 am
Unconvinced. So far neon becomes unstable after installing software. OK after restart, tho.
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Re: Neon Stability

Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:22 pm
Sim, estável e completo.


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