# I can't remember to have removed


$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep kde

deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/user xenial main
deb-src http://archive.neon.kde.org/user xenial main

manually from the pkcon configuration, myself.


# But, it's missing here:

$ sudo pkcon refresh

Refreshing cache [=========================]
Loading cache [=========================]
Refreshing software list [=========================]
Downloading packages [=========================]
Running [=========================]
Finished [=========================]
Enabled http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial InRelease
Enabled http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Disabled http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Enabled http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Enabled https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable stable InRelease
Enabled http://repo.steampowered.com/steam precise InRelease
Enabled http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org xenial InRelease

After repeating with --verbose --plain,
I get this:

$ sudo pkcon --verbose --plain refresh

18:26:26 PackageKit Verbose debugging enabled (on console 1)
18:26:26 PackageKit filter=(null), filters=0
18:26:26 PackageKit adding state 0x556095f0d0d0
18:26:26 PackageKit role now refresh-cache
Transaction: Refreshing cache
18:26:26 PackageKit notify::connected
Status: Waiting in queue
Status: Waiting for authentication
Status: Waiting in queue
Status: Starting
Status: Loading cache
Percentage: 0
Percentage: 100
Percentage: 0
Percentage: 50
Percentage: 100
Status: Refreshing software list
Status: Downloading packages
Percentage: 0
Status: Running
Status: Loading cache
Percentage: 100
Status: Finished
18:26:55 PackageKit remove state 0x556095f0d0d0
Results:
Enabled http://repo.steampowered.com/steam precise InRelease
Enabled http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial InRelease
Enabled http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Enabled http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org xenial InRelease
Enabled https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable stable InRelease
Disabled http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Enabled http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Disabled http://archive.neon.kde.org/user xenial InRelease

KDE is DISABLED. But not by myself.

It gets more interesting: Maybe, the SignatureKeys of KDEneon are broken?

Because now KDE doesn't even appear as DISABLED any more. It's gone.

See for Yourself:

1/2)
$ sudo pkcon --verbose --plain refresh 2>&1
19:24:13 PackageKit Verbose debugging enabled (on console 1)
19:24:13 PackageKit filter=(null), filters=0
19:24:13 PackageKit adding state 0x556bb12180d0
19:24:13 PackageKit role now refresh-cache
Transaction: Refreshing cache
19:24:13 PackageKit notify::connected
Status: Waiting in queue
Status: Waiting for authentication
Status: Waiting in queue
Status: Starting
Status: Loading cache
Percentage: 0
Percentage: 100
Percentage: 0
Percentage: 50
Percentage: 100
Status: Refreshing software list
Status: Downloading packages
Percentage: 0
Status: Running
Status: Loading cache
Percentage: 100
Status: Finished

Do you want to allow installing of unsigned software? [N/y] N

The unsigned software will not be installed.
19:26:49 PackageKit declined request 1
19:26:49 PackageKit remove state 0x556bb12180d0
Results:
Fatal error: user declined interaction

2/2)
$ sudo pkcon --verbose --plain refresh 2>&1
19:27:15 PackageKit Verbose debugging enabled (on console 1)
19:27:15 PackageKit filter=(null), filters=0
19:27:15 PackageKit adding state 0x56537314a0d0
19:27:15 PackageKit role now refresh-cache
Transaction: Refreshing cache
19:27:15 PackageKit notify::connected
Status: Waiting in queue
Status: Waiting for authentication
Status: Waiting in queue
Status: Starting
Status: Loading cache
Percentage: 0
Percentage: 100
Percentage: 0
Percentage: 50
Percentage: 100
Status: Refreshing software list
Status: Downloading packages
Percentage: 0
Status: Running
Status: Loading cache
Percentage: 100
Status: Finished
19:27:34 PackageKit remove state 0x56537314a0d0
Results:
Enabled http://repo.steampowered.com/steam precise InRelease
Enabled http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial InRelease
Enabled http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Enabled http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease
Disabled http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Enabled http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Enabled http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org xenial InRelease
Enabled https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable stable InRelease
Enabled http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease


# NO "KDE NEON". Not even disabled.

####

And whereto are all of these gone?

$ command apt-get indextargets | grep -i 'URI:.*secur' | sort -u
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 4/Packages
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 6/Packages
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... -amd64.yml
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 28x128.tar
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... -64x64.tar
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 4/Packages
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 6/Packages
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... -amd64.yml
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 28x128.tar
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... -64x64.tar
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 4/Packages
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 6/Packages
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... -amd64.yml
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 4/Packages
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 6/Packages
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... -amd64.yml
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 28x128.tar
URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... -64x64.tar
Base-URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... -security/
Repo-URI: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/

All of this leads to total disappearance of
"KDE neon" from the whole APT system:

# apt update
Hit:1 http://repo.steampowered.com/steam precise InRelease
Hit:2 http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial InRelease
Hit:3 http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org xenial InRelease
Hit:4 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Get:5 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease [102 kB]
Get:6 http://archive.neon.kde.org/user xenial InRelease [17,6 kB]
Ign:7 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Hit:8 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease [102 kB]
Get:10 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease [102 kB]
Hit:11 https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable stable InRelease
Fetched 324 kB in 0s (327 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.

Without me doing anything, KDE neon is there, again.
I tentatively mark this as SOLVED. But: Strange it is …

# apt update
Hit:1 http://repo.steampowered.com/steam precise InRelease
Hit:2 http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial InRelease
Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease [102 kB]
Hit:4 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Get:5 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease [102 kB]
Ign:6 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Hit:7 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Get:8 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease [102 kB]
Hit:9 https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable stable InRelease
Hit:10 http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org xenial InRelease
Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [59,2 kB]
Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main DEP-11 64x64 Icons [54,7 kB]
Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main DEP-11 128x128 Icons [145 kB]
Get:15 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages [593 kB]
Get:16 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [40,5 kB]
Get:17 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/universe DEP-11 64x64 Icons [56,2 kB]
Get:18 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/universe DEP-11 128x128 Icons [162 kB]
Get:19 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main i386 Packages [573 kB]
Get:20 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [304 kB]
Get:21 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main DEP-11 64x64 Icons [203 kB]
Get:22 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main DEP-11 128x128 Icons [506 kB]
Get:23 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe amd64 Packages [511 kB]
Get:24 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe i386 Packages [494 kB]
Get:25 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [163 kB]
Get:26 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe DEP-11 64x64 Icons [212 kB]
Get:27 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe DEP-11 128x128 Icons [524 kB]
Get:28 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [5.892 B]
Get:29 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [3.328 B]
Get:30 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [4.688 B]
Get:31 http://archive.neon.kde.org/user xenial InRelease [17,6 kB]
Fetched 4.938 kB in 3s (1.513 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.

pkcon hangs (indefinitely?)

Let's wait and see if it has a timeout.

Doesn't look like that.

I'll wait for 2 hours.

Maybe it continues. Maybe…

Oh! It finished:

# pkcon refresh
Refreshing cache [=========================]
Loading cache [=========================]
Refreshing software list [=========================]
Downloading packages [=========================]
Finished [=========================]
Fatal error: W: The repository 'http://archive.neon.kde.org/user xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
W: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
W: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.

# Exit Return Code is: 7
7
The transaction failed, see the detailed error for more information.


# I'll set the topic to UNSOLVED, again.

Great.

Temporary issues with repositories sometimes happen. In this case two events happened, as described in this blog post here and in the comments:
http://blog.bshah.in/2017/08/04/neon-ci-was-down/

In general, when something like this happen, asking on more direct channels (IRC) can help. And in the worst case, just wait 24 hours; if it was a temporary glitch, it could be solved by that time.

@tosky

1)
Such news don't belong only in some obscure, undetectable
blogs.

They belong as announcement with date and time
on the top of this forum.

2)
I don't like to discuss public problems 'in private'.
I know: Such repository problems can happen.

But since Ubuntu overwrote some KDE Neon packages
lately ('base-files' for example: One of only 25 "Essential"
packages among over 50000

$ apt-cache stats
Total package names: 73093 (1,462 k)
Total package structures: 112347 (4,943 k)
Normal packages: 83346

)
…well, since this happened, it's not a normal situation.
These things never happen in other distributions.

I would never expect a steam package from Valve
to overwite OS-Core packages, for example.

This is no normal simply-wait-24-hours situation.

The situation in the blog post described what happened the day after.

An IRC channel is a public channel.

Also, I'm not sure what is the problem with base-files and the situation described in this thread, and finally, Neon is not a distribution, but a repository on top of a distribution.

@tosky

Where did You find the blog You mentioned?

On Google?
Facebook?
Twitter?

I don't use them. Don't want to be tracked and
spied upon.

Aggregated on https://planet.kde.org.
But that's not the point: the situation solved after a day.

1)
"I'm not sure what is the problem with base-files"

$ kcmshell5 about-distro
but "Ubuntu 5.10" doesn't exist on this planet.

2)
"and the situation described in this thread, "

You don't understand the problem with missing
encryption keys? Can't be true…

3)
"and finally, Neon is not a distribution, but a repository on top of a distribution."
Yes. But:

Then, why does KDE Neon overwrite Ubuntu's distribution packages ('base-files')?

Problem still exists:
1)
KDE not in Repository List
# pkcon refresh
Refreshing cache [=========================]
Loading cache [=========================]
Refreshing software list [=========================]
Downloading packages [=========================]
Running [=========================]
Finished [=========================]
Enabled http://repo.steampowered.com/steam precise InRelease
Enabled http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial InRelease
Enabled http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Disabled http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Enabled http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Enabled https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable stable InRelease
Enabled http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org xenial InRelease

No KDE!

2)
Check if enabled.
# pkcon repo-list | grep kde
Enabled /etc/apt/sources.list.d/neon.list:deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/user/ xenial main Xenial (main)
Enabled /etc/apt/sources.list.d/neon.list:deb-src http://archive.neon.kde.org/user/ xenial main Xenial (main)

YES. Enabled.

3) Repeat step 1:

# pkcon refresh
Refreshing cache [=========================]
Loading cache [=========================]
Refreshing software list [=========================]
Downloading packages [=========================]
Running [=========================]
Finished [ ] (0%)
Do you want to allow installing of unsigned software? [N/y] N

The unsigned software will not be installed.
[=========================]
Loading cache [=========================]
Fatal error: user declined interaction

STILL BROKEN. Nothing changed.

#####

@tosky

Did You check it? Or did You only read the blog?

NoNameNoBlame wrote:
Then, why does KDE Neon overwrite Ubuntu's distribution packages ('base-files')?

Why should it not have a modified base-files?
i.e. :have the system announce and define itself as Neon as opposed to Ubuntu?
I believe they have to do so as they are not an official Ubuntu variant:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistr ... sb-release for example. This is all done in files found in base-files, just as Ubuntu modifies it from Debian.