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raddison
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Probably just maintenance. The iso is in the directory. Admin? :-\

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stoffepojken wrote:https://blog.neon.kde.org/index.php/2018/02/12/hiding-neon-lts-edition/


I understand. There's been debate about the LTS Edition for quite some time as to whether Neon should advertise it or not (on phab as well). Seemingly the LTS goes against the very concept of "Neon".


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https://plus.google.com/105224187394046 ... zenwyhLgLq

The subject has/is been/being dealt with exhaustively. I'm gonna close it now.


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Us that are on LTS edition, should we change something (repos) to move to normal user edition?
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notdario wrote:Us that are on LTS edition, should we change something (repos) to move to normal user edition?


No, you shouldn't change anything. For the next 24* months you will be on Plasma version 5.12.x. Your desktop will not change feature-wise but it will be bug-fixed once in a while. Bug fix 5.12.1 has already been deployed.

While your desktop will remain static feature-wise, applications will be continuously updated at some pace or another.

The Ubuntu base will also continuously receive security as well as other updates from Canonical.

Unless Neon state otherwise, you're good to go as is.

In April, Neon will likely shift the base from Xenial to Bionic for both Neon User Edition and Neon User LTS Edition.

The only change is: Neon have ceased to "advertise" the LTS Edition. That's all.

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*On a second thought, the switch to the next 5.16 Plasma LTS will probably occur sooner (but not sooner than 2019).

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If anyone is interested, in order to switch from LTS to User Edition you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/neon.list and remove `/lts` suffix
After that apt update.
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notdario wrote:If anyone is interested, in order to switch from LTS to User Edition you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/neon.list and remove `/lts` suffix
After that apt update.


Thanks but I have no desire to do so. I need stability and definitely not a desktop that is constantly changing.

I'll have the User Edition on another machine, just to check upcoming Plasma versions (like 5.13, 5.14, 5.15) and report bugs. It is unrealistic to think the User Edition will ever turn into a smooth ride.

You should proceed as you see fit. Thanks for the input. ;)


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You should also be aware that I've only tried to scratch the surface. As Neon is not a distro, packages coming from Canonical and Neon CI may occasionally conflict each other in any edition. That also holds true in distros with added PPAs. It's just a forced analogy though, as CI is not a PPA. It's a software repo.


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notdario wrote:Us that are on LTS edition, should we change something (repos) to move to normal user edition?


Oh sorry man. You were basically asking "How do I switch from LTS Edition to User Edition without fresh-installing from User Edition iso?" Silly me. I've misread your question. :|


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raddison wrote:You should also be aware that I've only tried to scratch the surface. As Neon is not a distro, packages coming from Canonical and Neon CI may occasionally conflict each other in any edition. That also holds true in distros with added PPAs. It's just a forced analogy though, as CI is not a PPA. It's a software repo.

I completely understand that (that's why I generally don't like PPA's). Also not saying that it's wise to do that. But on the other hand Neon maintainer said he won't be testing LTS updates etc.. so it's unclear will LTS edition be "smooth" ride.

Time will tell, but this is still one of the best "distributions" that I ever used, and I have it on a production machine for quite some time now (and I have dedicated testing machine where I distro-hop every week).
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Time will tell, but this is still one of the best "distributions" that I ever used, and I have it on a production machine for quite some time now


Agreed. I have not yet found a "distro" that is more pleasing than KDE NEON.


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Just one last thing, then I'm done.

Sooner or later Neon will shift the base from Xenial to Bionic. Does that also hold true for User LTS Edition or will it remain atop of Xenial?


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