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raddison
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'neon-apport'

Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:49 pm
What purpose does that package serve?
It is described like that:
This package overrides the apport as it's not desired to be installed on KDE neon. Should you wish to use it anyway, you can simply install apport manually. This override will be automatically removed as part of the installation of apport.


I know what 'apport' from ubuntu is though and it's not installed in Neon by default but neither is 'neon-apport'. I have my theories but want to be sure.
Can anyone explain what 'neon-apport' is, please?


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Re: 'neon-apport'

Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:25 pm
Hi, I run the following commands:
pkcon search neon-apport
Buscando por detalles [=========================]
Cargando caché [=========================]
Consultando [=========================]
Finalizado [=========================]
Disponible neon-apport-0.0+p16.04+git20180612.0516.all (neon-xenial-main) Apport override
jochoa@jochoapc:~$ pkcon depends-on neon-apport
Resolviendo [=========================]
Obteniendo dependencias [=========================]
Consultando [=========================]
Cargando caché [=========================]
Finalizado [=========================]
jochoa@jochoapc:~$ pkcon required-by neon-apport
Resolviendo [=========================] Paquete no encontrado: neon-apport
Falló la orden: Esta herramienta no pudo encontrar todos los paquetes: No se encontró ningún paquete
jochoa@jochoapc:~$ pkcon get-details neon-apport
Resolviendo [=========================]
Obteniendo detalles [=========================]
Consultando [=========================]
Cargando caché [=========================]
Finalizado [=========================]
Descripción del paquete
package: neon-apport-0.0+p16.04+git20180612.0516.all
summary: Apport override
license: unknown
group: desktop-kde
description: This package overrides the apport as it's not desired to be installed on KDE neon. Should you wish to use it anyway, you can simply install apport manually. This override will be automatically removed as part of the installation of apport.
size: 1968 bytes
url:

Try using
pkcon resolve neon-apport, the man page states:
Resolve the given package name and print information about installed or available packages and updates
or, this is command
pkcon repair


Hope it helps,
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Re: 'neon-apport'

Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:20 pm
There's not much chance of convincing vendors and projects that use RPM to switch to Debian-style packages, or vice-versa. The solution? A package manager agnostic front-end that can manage Linux packages without the end user needing to know if they're on an RPM or Debian-based system.


I'm on a Debian-Ubuntu system. So I use APT. I don't care for Packagekit. Also, this thread is not about package management.

My question is: what's the benefit of installing 'neon-apport'? Will it prevent 'apport' from accidentally contaminating the system? It sure is undesired. >:(


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Re: 'neon-apport'  Topic is solved

Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:33 am
I betcha it is there for iso building purposes, there is no physical content to the package, just dependency list, etc. Packages like this keep some unneeded Ubuntu things off the iso as they are "replacements" for them, but they are removed once they are not needed. Similar to how the live image installer uninstalls things not needed after it has finished its thing.
Purely an educated guess, not really knowing the build process used.


You can poke around at the contents - deb files can be opened with ark, for example.
Packages and source (neon-masks):
http://archive.neon.kde.org/user/pool/m ... eon-masks/
It doesn't make things any clearer, mind you ;)


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Re: 'neon-apport'

Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:05 am
claydoh wrote:I betcha it is there for iso building purposes, there is no physical content to the package, just dependency list, etc. Packages like this keep some unneeded Ubuntu things off the iso as they are "replacements" for them, but they are removed once they are not needed. Similar to how the live image installer uninstalls things not needed after it has finished its thing.
Purely an educated guess, not really knowing the build process used.


You can poke around at the contents - deb files can be opened with ark, for example.
Packages and source (neon-masks):
http://archive.neon.kde.org/user/pool/m ... eon-masks/
It doesn't make things any clearer, mind you ;)


Thank you, Clay.


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