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KDE Neon 20.04 Graphic glitches after wake up - real reason?

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armandoo
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Hey guys

I've been strugiing with this "feature" (it's not a bug it's a feature) since I've started using KDE neon a couple of years ago.
Ofc I have NVIDIA 1050 TI card and i7 top notch computer and we all know the problem when you wake your computer up from sleep, you see graphics glitches on some apps.
Some people are seeing glitched text on desktop icons, some ppl have GTK application screens all fubared. I have all of these simptoms and no luck fixing this with trying anything I could find on the internet. For example, my Viber app has glitches, Chrome browser has glitches, sometimes other GTK apps have glitches, and strangely enough QT apps mostly work. Only restarting apps helps, or sometimes only computer restart helps.
So to the question, since I've read all about it and some people accuse QT developrs, some NVIDIA, what's the real reason this happens. If someone that is far more into DE development than I will ever be, would be kind enought to try and explain it to me. What is going on and why ppl think that QT developers are responsible for fixing this bug and why some ppl say that NVIDIA is responsible for fixing this bug.

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Armando
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I've got a 1050Ti as well and Steam's display gets 'pixellated' among other things.

I found this reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/9 ... g_up_from/
in it, a KDE dev says: "This is a known Nvidia proprietary driver issue that breaks qt/plasma Infrastructure"

I guess it comes down to who you trust to know right, and to have no agenda? I think that rules out Nvidia and favours KDE so it seems pretty cut and dried to me. Maybe I'll get an AMD soon and prove it either way.

Anyone with an AMD have any input?


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armandoo
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From what I know about software development and system architecture (as I'm schooled in computer science) this quote "This is a known Nvidia proprietary driver issue that breaks qt/plasma Infrastructure" sounds like BS to me. Why? becuase you as a developer of "some" software are responsible to make it work with "outside" world. Meaning, if I make a software for audio, it's my responsibility to figure out how drivers for some XY audio card works if there is no common API to work with. And btw also I've read this comment, that's why I decided to talk about it on KDE forum, cause I'm curious about this problem and the depth of it.

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robgriff444
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You said: "you as a developer of "some" software are responsible to make it work with "outside" world"

Without caveats? No standards? So Nvidia and the outside world can define (or ignore) everything to satisfy their commercial and greed-driven agenda and KDE and others must adhere no matter what?

There's a world of difference between commercial and open-source agenda & adherance to standards.

With my years of experience I would simply assume Nvidia to be lying and delve deeper in case they were unususally telling the truth. On the other hand I would assume KDE were telling the truth and maybe delve a little deeper just to make sure I'm right.


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armandoo
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I do agree with you, but as a software developer myself I've ran into thid kind of behaviour on many "outside" world software and I couldn't do anything about it. I had to comply with their requirements and or "problems" to make mine work as it should. It involved all kinds of workarounds to get things done. After a while I've gotten used to this kind of problems and I treat them with "just another thing to be solved" mentality.

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@Armando
Understood. BTW I've ordered an AMD RX570 so it should be here today, Your post motivated me to do it. I'll let you know the result.

Edit: RX570 installed and hibernate and sleep both work with no display problems. Bye bye Nvidia >:D


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