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Who the hell needs snapd?

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thn
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Who the hell needs snapd?

Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:45 pm
Hi there,

for heaven's sake, why do you configure discover so that some packages are installed via snapd by default (guvcview, pinta, libreoffice...), and not from your repos? This drags along another package manager with all its overhead and adds - at least in my case - more confusion and instability to your system.

Concretely, for some reason I had to install an older snapshot of KDE Neon with timeshift, and noticed some error message from snapd at the next reboot. But everything seemed to work fine until I discovered that libreoffice had stopped working. No error message from the console, just a blinking cursor. Since snapd doesn't have a reinstall command, I removed libreoffice and installed it again. Same thing, only blinking cursor.

So i decided to remove snapd with all its programs and bloat, and installed all my former snapd-based programs the classical way, from the repositories or from .deb files. Without surprise, everything works fine now. And by the way, I have saved something like 2 GB of disk space.

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t.
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Re: Who the hell needs snapd?

Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:09 pm
Hi!

I'm not a neon user, but as explained in the KDE Neon FAQ:
FAQ wrote:KDE neon focuses on KDE software, most other software is not supported…


So the tools you mentioned are not supported by KDE Neon and won't be. As the basic Ubuntu won't get much updates itself and no upgrades at all due to the policy of a stable distribution, the snap package system provides a method to have more bugfixes and patches for the software you use.
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Re: Who the hell needs snapd?

Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:54 pm
Yes, snap is a very very bad thing, on my installerscripts this will be removed everytime automaticly. ^-^
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Re: Who the hell needs snapd?

Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:57 am
So the tools you mentioned are not supported by KDE Neon and won't be


WTF???

libreoffice is not support in KDE Neon and will never be???

I'm not sure you recognize what you are saying... if that is true, it will be my last nail in Neon's coffin.

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t.
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Re: Who the hell needs snapd?

Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:43 am
You can look up the neon sources yourself → https://archive.neon.kde.org/.

LibreOffice as all other non-KDE-stuff comes from the Ubuntu-sources, mainly from universe, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu.
Why do you expect the Neon team to take care of third-party software? They work on Qt and KDE a lot and they do a really good job. If you need other software in recent versions, use Snap or a PPA (Personal Package Archives, see the Ubuntu-link).
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Re: Who the hell needs snapd?

Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:45 pm
Somehow, when installing Neon, the discover backends for snap and flatpack are also installed. Just check with
Code: Select all
dpkg -l | grep plasma-discover-backend


which backend are installed and purge all you don't want to be used.
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Re: Who the hell needs snapd?

Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:00 pm
No one NEEDS snaps. Some people like them. If you don't, purge the ones installed including snapd and optionally all snap related folders. Haven't had any snap whatsoever on any ubuntu based kde since they came up with them.


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Re: Who the hell needs snapd?

Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:01 pm
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This realm's name is Maya. And she speaks Hertz. But Ahamkara makes a fuzz about it.


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