Hi,

The last update has been rough. Many people were hit by dependencies problems and windows without decorations. Today I was able to successfully update everything but the X11 Session still had no windows decorations and I couldn't move the windows. I had to manually install kwin-x11 to fix this.

I know you guys are doing a great effort to get Wayland to run stable but for me it's still buggy (constantly freezes and randomly repeats keystrokes). But the question is Did you forcefully uninstall X11 from everyone?? Was that intentional and unannounced? I use KDE Neon almost since the beginning and KDE long before that but after the forced change with the "wonderful" offline update system that needs to restart even more times than windows (still have nightmares when I think about it) and this I think it's time for me to search for greener pastures.

Please provide some link to reasonable explanation.

Thanks

Which edition of Neon did you update? I'm using machines with User and Testing, they're both kept up to date and I'm using X11 and haven't seen anything like what you describe

Just seen this thread: viewtopic.php?f=309&t=174977

Try
sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade
sudo apt install kwin-x11

Hi,

Same problem here.

The above mentioned solution did *not* work:

sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade
sudo apt install kwin-x11

Trying to install kwin-x11 here does end in:

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The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kwin-x11 : Depends: kwin-common (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1) but it is not going to be installed
            Depends: libkwinglutils12 (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1) but it is not going to be installed
            Depends: libkwineffects12 (>= 4:5.17.80) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

However, I seem not to have any "held" packages, "dpkg --get-selections | grep hold" returns empty

I also cannot find the "broken" packages: apt --fix-broken install

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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

Trying to remove "apt remove libkwinglutils13" to install "libkwinglutils12" would remove pretty much all of KDE (it seems to me). However kwin-x11 depends on libkwinglutils12.

Please advise.

Regards,
pm




Following the complete output of "apt install kwin-x11":

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apt install kwin-x11
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 2
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 2
Investigating (0) kwin-x11:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un puN Ib >
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on kwin-common:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mK > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering kwin-common:amd64 5 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwinglutils12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering libkwinglutils12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
  Re-Instated libkwinglutils12:amd64
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwinxrenderutils12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering libkwinxrenderutils12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
  Re-Instated libkwinxrenderutils12:amd64
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwineffects12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (>= 4:5.17.80)
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
  Re-Instated libkwineffects12:amd64
Investigating (0) libkwinglutils13:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build62 @ii mK Ib >
Broken libkwinglutils13:amd64 Breaks on libkwinglutils12:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uN >
  Considering libkwinglutils12:amd64 -1 as a solution to libkwinglutils13:amd64 3
  Added libkwinglutils12:amd64 to the remove list
  Conflicts//Breaks against version 4:5.18.4.1-0ubuntu2 for libkwinglutils12 but that is not InstVer, ignoring
  Fixing libkwinglutils13:amd64 via keep of libkwinglutils12:amd64
Investigating (0) libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build47 @ii mK Ib >
Broken libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 Breaks on kwin-x11:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un puN Ib > (< 4:5.20.90)
  Considering kwin-x11:amd64 10101 as a solution to libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 3
  Removing libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 rather than change kwin-x11:amd64
Investigating (0) libkwineffects13:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mK Ib >
Broken libkwineffects13:amd64 Breaks on libkwineffects12:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uN Ib >
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to libkwineffects13:amd64 1
  Added libkwineffects12:amd64 to the remove list
  Conflicts//Breaks against version 4:5.18.4.1-0ubuntu2 for libkwineffects12 but that is not InstVer, ignoring
  Fixing libkwineffects13:amd64 via keep of libkwineffects12:amd64
Investigating (0) kwin-style-breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mK Ib >
Broken kwin-style-breeze:amd64 Depends on libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build47 @ii mR > (>= 4:5.24.5)
  Considering libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 3 as a solution to kwin-style-breeze:amd64 0
  Removing kwin-style-breeze:amd64 rather than change libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64
Investigating (0) libkwinxrenderutils13:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build62 @ii mK Ib >
Broken libkwinxrenderutils13:amd64 Breaks on libkwinxrenderutils12:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uN >
  Considering libkwinxrenderutils12:amd64 -1 as a solution to libkwinxrenderutils13:amd64 -2
  Removing libkwinxrenderutils13:amd64 rather than change libkwinxrenderutils12:amd64
Investigating (1) kwin-x11:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un puN Ib >
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on kwin-common:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mK Ib > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering kwin-common:amd64 5 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwinglutils12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering libkwinglutils12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwineffects12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (>= 4:5.17.80)
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Investigating (1) breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mK Ib >
Broken breeze:amd64 Depends on kwin-style-breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mR > (= 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53)
  Considering kwin-style-breeze:amd64 0 as a solution to breeze:amd64 202
  Added kwin-style-breeze:amd64 to the remove list
  Fixing breeze:amd64 via keep of kwin-style-breeze:amd64
Investigating (1) kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build43 @ii mK Ib >
Broken kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 Depends on libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build47 @ii mR > (>= 4:5.24.5)
  Considering libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 3 as a solution to kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 202
  Added libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 to the remove list
  Fixing kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 via keep of libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64
Investigating (1) libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build47 @ii mK Ib >
Broken libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 Breaks on kwin-x11:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un puN Ib > (< 4:5.20.90)
  Considering kwin-x11:amd64 10101 as a solution to libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 3
  Removing libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 rather than change kwin-x11:amd64
Investigating (1) kwin-style-breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mK Ib >
Broken kwin-style-breeze:amd64 Depends on libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build47 @ii mR > (>= 4:5.24.5)
  Considering libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 3 as a solution to kwin-style-breeze:amd64 0
  Removing kwin-style-breeze:amd64 rather than change libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64
Investigating (2) kwin-x11:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un puN Ib >
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on kwin-common:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mK Ib > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering kwin-common:amd64 5 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwinglutils12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering libkwinglutils12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwineffects12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (>= 4:5.17.80)
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Investigating (2) breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mK Ib >
Broken breeze:amd64 Depends on kwin-style-breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mR > (= 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53)
  Considering kwin-style-breeze:amd64 0 as a solution to breeze:amd64 202
  Added kwin-style-breeze:amd64 to the remove list
  Fixing breeze:amd64 via keep of kwin-style-breeze:amd64
Investigating (2) kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build43 @ii mK Ib >
Broken kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 Depends on libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build47 @ii mR > (>= 4:5.24.5)
  Considering libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 3 as a solution to kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 202
  Added libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 to the remove list
  Fixing kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 via keep of libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64
Investigating (2) libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build47 @ii mK Ib >
Broken libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 Breaks on kwin-x11:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un puN Ib > (< 4:5.20.90)
  Considering kwin-x11:amd64 10101 as a solution to libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 202
  Removing libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 rather than change kwin-x11:amd64
Investigating (2) kwin-style-breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mK Ib >
Broken kwin-style-breeze:amd64 Depends on libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build47 @ii mR > (>= 4:5.24.5)
  Considering libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 10101 as a solution to kwin-style-breeze:amd64 202
  Removing kwin-style-breeze:amd64 rather than change libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64
Investigating (3) kwin-x11:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un puN Ib >
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on kwin-common:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mK Ib > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering kwin-common:amd64 5 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwinglutils12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering libkwinglutils12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwineffects12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (>= 4:5.17.80)
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Investigating (3) breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mK Ib >
Broken breeze:amd64 Depends on kwin-style-breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mR > (= 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53)
  Considering kwin-style-breeze:amd64 10101 as a solution to breeze:amd64 202
  Removing breeze:amd64 rather than change kwin-style-breeze:amd64
Investigating (3) kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build43 @ii mK Ib >
Broken kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 Depends on libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build47 @ii mR > (>= 4:5.24.5)
  Considering libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 10101 as a solution to kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 202
  Removing kde-config-gtk-style:amd64 rather than change libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64
Investigating (3) plasma-integration:amd64 < 5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build51 @ii mK Ib >
Broken plasma-integration:amd64 Depends on breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mR > (>= 4:5.14)
  Considering breeze:amd64 10101 as a solution to plasma-integration:amd64 106
  Removing plasma-integration:amd64 rather than change breeze:amd64
Investigating (3) plasma-workspace:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build57 @ii mK Ib >
Broken plasma-workspace:amd64 Depends on plasma-integration:amd64 < 5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build51 @ii mR >
  Considering plasma-integration:amd64 10101 as a solution to plasma-workspace:amd64 106
  Removing plasma-workspace:amd64 rather than change plasma-integration:amd64
Investigating (3) plasma-workspace-wayland:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build57 @ii mK Ib >
Broken plasma-workspace-wayland:amd64 Depends on plasma-workspace:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build57 @ii mR > (= 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build57)
  Considering plasma-workspace:amd64 10101 as a solution to plasma-workspace-wayland:amd64 98
  Removing plasma-workspace-wayland:amd64 rather than change plasma-workspace:amd64
Investigating (3) sddm-theme-breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build57 @ii mK Ib >
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  Considering plasma-workspace:amd64 10101 as a solution to sddm-theme-breeze:amd64 98
  Removing sddm-theme-breeze:amd64 rather than change plasma-workspace:amd64
Investigating (3) plasma-widgets-addons:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build52 @ii mK Ib >
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  Considering plasma-workspace:amd64 10101 as a solution to plasma-widgets-addons:amd64 98
  Removing plasma-widgets-addons:amd64 rather than change plasma-workspace:amd64
Investigating (3) kwin-common:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mK Ib >
Broken kwin-common:amd64 Depends on libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build47 @ii mR > (>= 4:5.24.5)
  Considering libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 10101 as a solution to kwin-common:amd64 5
  Removing kwin-common:amd64 rather than change libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64
Investigating (3) kwin-wayland-backend-drm:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mK Ib >
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  Considering kwin-common:amd64 10101 as a solution to kwin-wayland-backend-drm:amd64 -1
  Removing kwin-wayland-backend-drm:amd64 rather than change kwin-common:amd64
Investigating (3) kwin-wayland:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mK Ib >
Broken kwin-wayland:amd64 Depends on kwin-common:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mR > (= 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60)
  Considering kwin-common:amd64 10101 as a solution to kwin-wayland:amd64 -1
  Removing kwin-wayland:amd64 rather than change kwin-common:amd64
Investigating (4) kwin-x11:amd64 < none -> 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un puN Ib >
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on kwin-common:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mR > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering kwin-common:amd64 10101 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwinglutils12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering libkwinglutils12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwineffects12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (>= 4:5.17.80)
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Investigating (4) plasma-desktop:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build52 @ii mK Ib >
Broken plasma-desktop:amd64 Depends on breeze:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build53 @ii mR > (>= 4:5.14)
  Considering breeze:amd64 10101 as a solution to plasma-desktop:amd64 5301
  Removing plasma-desktop:amd64 rather than change breeze:amd64
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  Considering breeze:amd64 10101 as a solution to neon-desktop:amd64 5198
  Removing neon-desktop:amd64 rather than change breeze:amd64
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  Considering plasma-desktop:amd64 10101 as a solution to kde-config-touchpad:amd64 -2
  Removing kde-config-touchpad:amd64 rather than change plasma-desktop:amd64
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Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on kwin-common:amd64 < 4:5.24.5-0xneon+20.04+focal+release+build60 @ii mR > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering kwin-common:amd64 10101 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwinglutils12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1)
  Considering libkwinglutils12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Broken kwin-x11:amd64 Depends on libkwineffects12:amd64 < none | 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1 @un uH > (>= 4:5.17.80)
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
  Considering libkwineffects12:amd64 -1 as a solution to kwin-x11:amd64 10101
Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kwin-x11 : Depends: kwin-common (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1) but it is not going to be installed
            Depends: libkwinglutils12 (= 4:5.18.7-0ubuntu0.1) but it is not going to be installed
            Depends: libkwineffects12 (>= 4:5.17.80) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

It seems indeed to be a bug, not an attempt to force Wayland through our throats:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454319

You can add your experiences to the bug thread and ask there for help. In my case update and kwin-x11 solved the issue at some point. I think this is very frustrating since the problem seems to be wayland-related changes and I don't even use it.