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armandoo
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Hey guys
Anyone else experiencing extremly long system updates? It's hapening to me all the time ...updates take up to 2 hours and never finish ...
And if I restart the comp while stuck at some % for a long time, there's a 50/50 chance the comp wont boot up. Affected all versions up until latest, meaning I'm experiencing this all the time with every large update. I also have 2 same comps with same hardware ...
I have to restart the comp, go into "safe mode", run pkcon repair and then wait for another 10 -20 mins and my system is back. Anything I can do to make updates work ....
if only dmesg logs would display what is being updated atm so I know that is taking so long ... but 2 hours stuck at X% is just "wtf"

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And what distribution are you talking about? this depends a lot on the system you are actually running...

FWIW can't reproduce that on mine


Running Kubuntu 22.10 with Plasma 5.26.3, Frameworks 5.100.0, Qt 5.15.6, kernel 5.19.0-23 on Ryzen 5 4600H, AMD Renoir, X11
FWIW: it's always useful to state the exact Plasma version (+ distribution) when asking questions, makes it easier to help ...
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Im using latest KDE neon
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armandoo wrote:.
if only dmesg logs would display what is being updated atm so I know that is taking so long ... but 2 hours stuck at X% is just "wtf"



dmesg won't have logs on this, but /var/log/apt will have various logs

What part is taking the time? Downloading, or installing?
If you are using the offline updates feature, maybe see if disabling that changes anything.

You will also get more information by using apt directly, as pkcon hides much of what apt is doing, so that might give better information on what is going on.


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claydoh wrote:What part is taking the time? Downloading, or installing?


Thank you for your reply ...
Installing part, when neon restarts and starts install process.

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claydoh wrote:You will also get more information by using apt directly, as pkcon hides much of what apt is doing, so that might give better information on what is going on.


I tried to use APT many times, but neon says use pkcon instead ...

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came here just after reading 'Rant mode ON' hahahah ;D on a serious note, I hope your update problem gets fixed because my system upgraded fast enough to not rant about it. :P
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armandoo wrote:
claydoh wrote:You will also get more information by using apt directly, as pkcon hides much of what apt is doing, so that might give better information on what is going on.


I tried to use APT many times, but neon says use pkcon instead ...

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Armando



Pkcon actually uses apt to do the actual work, but does not show full messaging. Apt shows all the errors, which might point to a problem more directly.

Again, have you tried disabling the offline-updates option found in System Settings, to see if it acts the same or differently?

If you have tried using apt, and it is telling you to use pkcon, then that means you are using apt incorrectly.

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apt update
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apt full-upgrade
are used. If you use apt upgrade, it will show a message about pkcon, and tell you how to use apt correctly.


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Thank you all for your comments/help.
Unfortuanately I've just seen this post again (I forgot I opened it), and did not try APT ... I tried again with pkcon and it's still pain in the **** ... takes up to 2 hours updating 50 packages .. and still stuck at X % ... if I reset te computer then all hell breaks loose .. wont boot etc.
The only thing that work then is to pick some recovery mode of some older version of kernel and go into root console and run pkcon repair ... it repairs and then it works ...
but as noted here .. USE APT ... I WILL ;)

Regards

Armando


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