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ReverendBob
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Getting windows to see Kubuntu?

Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:13 am
I just learned about the ability to install KDE apps into Windows OS and after reading as much pertinent info on the Windows Installer for KDE apps that I can find I am still not clear on a very basic concept:

I already have KDE installed on my computer in the form of Kununtu 12.10 (Saucy Salamander), along with Windows 7 as a standard dual-boot system. I am unclear on whether I can use the KDE Windows installer program to simply get Windows to see the the linux-swap/ext4 harddrive that Kubuntu is already installed on. If so, can I use the KDE windows installer as a tool for windows to access the full suite of KDE software that is already installed on the Kubuntu partition, and run programs installed on the Kubuntu partition from within Windows 7.
Or does the KDE windows installer simply offer me the ability to install a second, separate copy of the KDE Software suite that would run in Windows, and allow me easier access to many of the features I can now only enjoy in Kubuntu/
(For Example, having 2 separate installations of RhythmBox, one on windows 7 and one on Kubuntu that would allow me much more Universal access to my Music file directory?)

I realize these may be silly questions with obvious answers to many people, but after using Ubuntu (Gnome Desktop Environment) for a long time I migrated over to Kubuntu and KDE architecture fairly recently, and so am still a novice when it comes to many of the more fundamental aspects of IKDE. Any patient explanations for me and/or links to resources that very simply answer any of my quandries would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Getting windows to see Kubuntu?

Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:47 am
I'm afraid the KDE on Windows installer will not provide direct access to the Kubuntu file systems. If you need this functionality, I believe there are ext family drivers available for Windows which can assist you here.

You are correct however that the KDE on Windows installer does offer a number of the KDE applications you are able to use on Kubuntu - which would be installed as a separate distinct copy. Even if you were able to access the Kubuntu file system, you would still need this separate installation, as applications built for Kubuntu cannot be run under Windows (they're incompatible).

Please note that Rhythmbox is a GNOME application, and is therefore not provided by the KDE on Windows installer.


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Re: Getting windows to see Kubuntu?

Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:52 am
As Ben said, although some applications run on Windows and Linux, even if it's the same application it's a competely different piece of data in the end. The formats in which Linux and Windows expect executable files to be is different and you can't run the same thing on both systems -- you need to download or otherwise obtain different versions made for the different systems. See also the wine project (http://www.winehq.org/) which basically implements the Windows format for executables on Linux and thus allows it to run those, too.

For shared file systems, although ext support for windows exists, I think the easiest way is to have the shared partition as a NTFS file system, which is well supported by both Linux and Windows (NTFS support on Linux is better than ext support on Windows).

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Re: Getting windows to see Kubuntu?

Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:18 am
Thanks to both for your replies. Both have cleared up all questions/uncertainties I was trying to understand.

Scummos, I know this is outside the scope of this Forum Topic (and original post I made) but if you could quickly drop some knowledge on me. I have tried Wine several times over the years, always with poor to lack-luster results. When you talk about creating A network share on an NTFS partition, I have been trying to figure out the best way to do that, on my home computer with the Windows/Kubuntu dual-boot (Thus no Server, that can can running and accessible constantly, independent of whatever OS I am logged into.) I have tried setting up a share through windows Network that kubuntu can see and have full access to and have never figured out how to do that effectively.) Is there any software that can be installed to seamlessly create a windows/linux drive share in dual-boot. Or can it be done with windows Networking File-share utilities that are built into windows 7?
Any advice or info you could share would be most appreciated.
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Re: Getting windows to see Kubuntu?

Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:56 am
Yeah, wine doesn't always work and even if it does in principle, it's often a bit of effort to set it up. There are things like Crossover -- commercial forks of wine -- or so which I think work better out of the box.

For setting up windows-compatible shares, I have no idea, sorry -- I'm not a windows person at all ;)
You should open a separate topic to attract the people which know about such stuff.


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Re: Getting windows to see Kubuntu?

Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:59 pm
I've had multi-boot systems for years; until lately I've kept a FAT32 partition for the express purpose of data exchange;
lately however the linux NTFS-3g driver has worked flawlessly and I simply mount all of my windows partitions in Linux
with /c, /d, /e, /f etc. points on the root directory.
Going the other direction, though, there is a product that is an ext4 system running on windows. However I caution
against it except in the most experimental setups, i.e. you are ready to re-build the data systems it touches. With that
caveat, Paragon_ExtFS_for_Windows does all you might want.


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