bcooksley wrote:Try logging out and back in again ( or restart ) to try and fix this.

Restarting fixes the problem, that's true. However, having to restart my computer every time I want to use a KDE application is not the most enjoyable situation.

Another possibility I just thought of (but I have no idea how to verify it on windows) is that there may be a problem when Kile crashes on exit. I remember that in my Kubuntu days, it did this most of the time. No problems in Kubuntu, but perhaps in windows this breaks something that KDE needs? Perhaps it crashes a necessary service for KDE apps to run or something? If this would be the case, is there any program I can simply restart to get this fixed?

Try looking for "klauncher" and "kded4" and killing these processes. Also, kill any kio_* named processes.

bcooksley wrote:Try looking for "klauncher" and "kded4" and killing these processes. Also, kill any kio_* named processes.

Wonderful, that did the job! Thanks!

A little news on the matter from Michel Ludwig, the current main Kile developer:
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-windo ... 05457.html

panda84 wrote:A little news on the matter from Michel Ludwig, the current main Kile developer:
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-windo ... 05457.html

Wonderful! A fully stable version of Kile under windows would be magnificent!

If you have some time please test and report problems to kile-devel mailing list, bugzilla or kde-windows ml.
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-windo ... 05470.html

Please do not report already reported KDE 4.5.4 for Windows problems, fixes are already in the works:
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-windo ... 05459.html

I can try that (I have some time to do testing etc), but I'm new to this and I can't seem to figure out how it works.

I assume I have to download a whole new KDE install, not just a new Kile? Where can I find this new KDE 4.5.4 as I read in that topic? On the windows.kde.org website I see no changes, so I assume the auto-installer is not the right way for this? I found http://winkde.org/pub/kde/ports/win32/r ... ble/4.5.4/ in the other topic, but it's unclear to me what to do with this bunch of archives. I assume they're not intended to be downloaded manually and extracted?

go after this description and install kile (and whatever you like) with it:
http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDE_on ... stallation

please use the kdewin-installer from here: http://www.winkde.org/pub/kde/ports/win ... .9.8-0.exe (you must take it!) and choose winkde.org as the source mirror (even if you are not in Germany).
Latest versions have not been adapted yet, but I will do so probably tonight.

Ok, my tests are done and I'm happy to see that the two major problems I experienced in the previous version (Kile not starting up after quit/crash and Kile/KDE unable to write to certain folders) are solved now.

I did find three smaller bugs and I have reported them.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262225
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262227
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262228

Also, has anyone experienced a problem with Okular, that it does not reload the document when the file changes (for example by PDFLaTeX in Kile), even though this particular setting in Okular is switched on?

P3t3r wrote:Also, has anyone experienced a problem with Okular, that it does not reload the document when the file changes (for example by PDFLaTeX in Kile), even though this particular setting in Okular is switched on?

I think this has something to do with the fact that the filesystem change notification mechanism is different in Windows and in Linux. Be happy however, Acrobat Reader doesn't have that feature nor in Windows, nor in Linux...

P3t3r wrote:Ok, my tests are done and I'm happy to see that the two major problems I experienced in the previous version (Kile not starting up after quit/crash and Kile/KDE unable to write to certain folders) are solved now.

I did find three smaller bugs and I have reported them.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262225
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262227
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262228

Thanks for taking the time to report issues properly. That's what I call proficient collaboration!
I'm also pleased to see that these are minor bugs, nothing blocking.

Congrats to the KDE Windows team and Michel Ludwig!
Diego

It's the least I could do back.

panda84 wrote:I think this has something to do with the fact that the filesystem change notification mechanism is different in Windows and in Linux.

I don't think so, since it did work perfectly in KDE 4.2.95 and the filesystem change notification of my windows has not changed between KDE versions...

panda84 wrote:Be happy however, Acrobat Reader doesn't have that feature nor in Windows, nor in Linux...

I would hope KDE has higher goals that being as good (or as bad) as Acrobat Reader.
There are much better PDF readers out there and without this glitch and with proper printing facilities, Okular would be one of them.

But ok, I'll use another reader then for the time being, I'm already very happy that I can finally use Kile under windows now.

P3t3r wrote:

panda84 wrote:I think this has something to do with the fact that the filesystem change notification mechanism is different in Windows and in Linux.

I don't think so, since it did work perfectly in KDE 4.2.95 and the filesystem change notification of my windows has not changed between KDE versions...

Didn't thought it worked before. I think a bug report doesn't hurt: assign to kde-windows@kde.org if possible, though I don't know which would be the most appropriate application / component to assign. I'm investigating in IRC, if I don't get back soon, just select "okular" and developers will set to the correct KDE component.

panda84 wrote:I'm investigating in IRC, if I don't get back soon, just select "okular" and developers will set to the correct KDE component.

ok, okular seems to be a good starting point, don't forget to mention this post:

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[19:15] <panda84kde> anybody knows what could be causing okular not to update content after filesystem change? viewtopic.php?f=59&t=90219&p=184429#p184422
[19:16] <SaroEngels|away> panda84kde: a broken QFileSystemWatcher
[19:17] <panda84kde> so the bug report should be filled in Qt bugtracker?
[19:17] <SaroEngels|away> no
[19:18] <SaroEngels|away> it could be that okular itself uses some KDE service instead, asking pinotree whatever okular uses would be a thing
[19:18] <SaroEngels|away> I am pretty sure though, that the error is on the KDE side
[19:19] <panda84kde> ok, thank you so much