Hello, everyone!I'm new here.
I've installed KDE 4.5.4 for Windows ,but connot start Plasma.How to run plasma on Windows ?
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http://www.linux-ren.org/uploads/newbb/keditor_file/20110127100154_98946.jpg

The setting in the screenshot is to use plasma-desktop in place of windows explorer as the Default shell when you log in - not recommended for a number of reasons, including: KDE's launchers don't pull apps from the windows start menu, and no window manager integration (in particular no taskbar or system tray).

You can launch plasma-desktop.exe (in the bin directory of your KDE install) if you so desire, which will start the plasma desktop on top of your windows desktop.

The same problem.
What for have created an option of a desktop-choice and don't allow to use it?

I'm not entirely sure why they created the option that is (currently) always disabled, it may be that they expect that some day eventually things will be stable enough and they will get the integration they want so that they can say that it is safe to replace the windows shell with plasma.

For now, if you want plasma-desktop on top of the windows shell just run %KDE_INSTALL_DIR%\bin\plasma-desktop.exe

airdrik wrote:I'm not entirely sure why they created the option that is (currently) always disabled, it may be that they expect that some day eventually things will be stable enough and they will get the integration they want so that they can say that it is safe to replace the windows shell with plasma.

I hope it will happen soon. Linux technologies will eat Windows. =)

But it is using Windows' window manger program. This edition doesn't include Kwin.

startmenu wrote:But it is using Windows' window manger program. This edition doesn't include Kwin.

That is correct. KWin being an X window manager, there are no intentions to try to convert it into a Windows' window manager replacement (that would require a complete rewrite to use the Windows API rather than the X api).
As such there is a lot of functionality that you would expect from a *real* KDE desktop that you won't with KDE on Windows, like multiple virtual desktops (for that I recommend VirtuaWin), full implementation of Activities (worked in KDE on Windows versions 4.4 and previous, probably due to the addition of window managing features added in 4.5 the activity manager no longer works on KDE on Windows 4.5). Taskbar and Systray plasmoids (rely on X window manager apis).
On the other hand, if you just focus on the applications and libraries there are a lot of things which do work well: Konqueror, dolphin, kate, okular, amarok, digikam, network transparency with KIO (insofar as the corresponding KIO slave has been ported and works properly - I haven't tested fish for ssh in a while), plasma-desktop (most of the time) and what plasmoids actually come with that package, GHNS, and many other things that I haven't delved into.

En. I've started the Plasma Desktop.But it is really "fragile",especially when the board was added.
And .lnk files are not supported.

startmenu wrote:En. I've started the Plasma Desktop.But it is really "fragile",especially when the board was added.
And .lnk files are not supported.

How fragile the desktop is depends in part on which version+compiler you use. I've found the mingw compiled versions tend to be less fragile.
Support for .lnk files would be nice (at least enable converting them to .desktop files), and I think is on the todo list for increasing compatibility with the rest of windows (including enabling things like importing the windows start menu items into KDE's menus). It probably comes down to nobody has looked into actually adding the support (one major difference between .lnk and .desktop files is that .desktop files are text files whereas .lnk files are binary files).

Version : KDE 4.5.4 MSVC 2008 32bit.
And KDE 4.5.4 MSVC 2010 32 bit was even more "fragile".

I have started Plasma, but I don't intend to replace the Windows 7 shell, I just want to run it in parallel. It appears in the Alt+Tab menu, but stays in the back of the desktop somehow. How could I solve this?

It doesn't replace the Windows 7 shell, it only sits on top of it (The Windows 7 taskbar should still be on top of the plasma desktop, alt-tab, etc should still be from Windows 7)
What exactly do you mean by "run it in parallel" and "solve this"?

I've experienced KDE 4.6.1 on Qomo Linux 2.0,and so many Bugs!
Ark, cannot open .tar files
KDM ...

Your distributor has likely built Ark incorrectly if you cannot open tar files. Please contact them and ensure that the relevant packages are installed.

airdrik wrote:It doesn't replace the Windows 7 shell, it only sits on top of it (The Windows 7 taskbar should still be on top of the plasma desktop, alt-tab, etc should still be from Windows 7)
What exactly do you mean by "run it in parallel" and "solve this"?

I mean to make the plasma ... "desktop" ... stay over the Windows desktop.
I am not talking about the taskbar at all.

At ALT-TAB I see in my Windows 7 (64-bit with sp1 and all the updates to day, actually two systems, one having Enterprise, other Ultimate) a plasma window contour (hidden?) at the middle of the screen, my screen has 1280x1024 and plasma seems to be 1024x768.
It does not come in front, in the ALT-TAB menu is is drawn as known in linux, having oxygen theme look.
I guess it is in back, below the Windows standard desktop, and I can't interact with it and I need to know how to make it stay in front of that.