Just a quick question:

On this PPA for Kubuntu, there are update for the same version, for example,
4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa3 to 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa4 and so on.

What are the differences between these ppa1, ppa2, ppa3 and ppa4? The package version is kept the same, like 4.4.85, but Kubuntu updates based on ppa#

Thanks for the clarification.

These are simply different versions of the same package. In this case, ppa1, ppa2, etc are a reference to the fact that changes have been made to the package ( for instance an additional dependency added, the description adjusted, etc )

Code wise, there is not likely to be any difference, unless your distribution is adding patches.

SyncMaster wrote:Just a quick question:

On this PPA for Kubuntu, there are update for the same version, for example,
4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa3 to 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa4 and so on.

What are the differences between these ppa1, ppa2, ppa3 and ppa4? The package version is kept the same, like 4.4.85, but Kubuntu updates based on ppa#

Thanks for the clarification.

Are you seeing these multiple versions in KPackageKit? I recently noticed this myself. You should only be seeing the latest version of software in there, not these multiple versions.


Is this bug report what you are seeing?

bcooksley wrote:These are simply different versions of the same package. In this case, ppa1, ppa2, etc are a reference to the fact that changes have been made to the package ( for instance an additional dependency added, the description adjusted, etc )

Code wise, there is not likely to be any difference, unless your distribution is adding patches.

Thanks for the clarification. After submitting I thought for a while and I supposed that it was related with packaging and not with software version.

Anyhow, I suspect that some patchs are indeed slipping into those packages eve if the version is kept the same...

claydoh wrote:

SyncMaster wrote:Just a quick question:

On this PPA for Kubuntu, there are update for the same version, for example,
4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa3 to 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa4 and so on.

What are the differences between these ppa1, ppa2, ppa3 and ppa4? The package version is kept the same, like 4.4.85, but Kubuntu updates based on ppa#

Thanks for the clarification.

Are you seeing these multiple versions in KPackageKit? I recently noticed this myself. You should only be seeing the latest version of software in there, not these multiple versions.


Is this bug report what you are seeing?

No. Different issue.

Ok, I see I think.

You see package for say kdebase, and it's package version is :4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1

While kdebase-workspace is at 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa4.

In this particular case, you can view the package details on the Launchpad PPA page and see that the ~ppa4 version just had some dependency edits that had changed between sc 4.4.80 and 4.4.85. Previous uploads of the particular package (~ppa1, 2, or 3) also may have failed to build on the ppa server for some reason, and any re-upload usually requires a bump in the version.

claydoh wrote:Ok, I see I think.

You see package for say kdebase, and it's package version is :4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1

While kdebase-workspace is at 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa4.

In this particular case, you can view the package details on the Launchpad PPA page and see that the ~ppa4 version just had some dependency edits that had changed between sc 4.4.80 and 4.4.85. Previous uploads of the particular package (~ppa1, 2, or 3) also may have failed to build on the ppa server for some reason, and any re-upload usually requires a bump in the version.

Exactly. Because I was updating and it redownloaded again the same packages for instalation being the difference from ppa3 to ppa4, and so on.

SyncMaster wrote:

claydoh wrote:Ok, I see I think.

You see package for say kdebase, and it's package version is :4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1

While kdebase-workspace is at 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa4.

In this particular case, you can view the package details on the Launchpad PPA page and see that the ~ppa4 version just had some dependency edits that had changed between sc 4.4.80 and 4.4.85. Previous uploads of the particular package (~ppa1, 2, or 3) also may have failed to build on the ppa server for some reason, and any re-upload usually requires a bump in the version.

Exactly. Because I was updating and it redownloaded again the same packages for instalation being the difference from ppa3 to ppa4, and so on.

PPAs generally (not unique to the Kubuntu PPA) are generally testing-related; therefore, they are always in flux. The PPAs, after all, are to Debian what Rawhide is to RedHat/Fedora.

The Kubuntu Backport PPA in particular is going to have depency-related differences merely due to changes between the source (Maverick Meerkat) and the PPA's target (Lucid Lynx) as far as underlying packages go (such as Xorg differences). That is, in fact, why I find Kubuntu Backports (and KDE: UNSTABLE in openSUSE) welcome/necessary barometers as to KDE performance in current (as opposed to development/testing) Linux distributions.

they are not 100% for testing, per se, as it is where any new releases of KDE SC's go, whether they make it into -updates or -backports or not.

I blogged on it here
http://dohbuoy.wordpress.com/2010/02/23 ... ositories/
Which I should update for Lucid, I think