I have been a KDE person (for eons)

it was once easy but now it is buried in a mountain of details

no more switchdesk (for a long time)

yum install kde* no longer works but give a mountain of details

yum groupinstall "KDE Software Compilation" same

no place in the login dialog

Gnome is still a disaster

you could start with the Fedora KDE spin http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#desktops

your problems with Yum and installing KDE are Fedora not KDE issues, Fedora packages the code KDE makes available

switchdesk afaik is not part of KDE, if you want/need it in Fedora you need to contact them or compile it yourself

what do you mean by "no place in the login dialog"? You mean KDE is not a selectable menu item? You do not say if KDE was successfully installed, if not installed it would not be an option. Are you using GDM or KDM for the display manage?

note: moved to Operating System specific -> Linux

OK

I just installed Fedora 16...how do I get good old KDE 4.x.x back

I don't use Fedora but supposedly

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sudo yum groupinstall "KDE Software Compilation"

is what you should use, if this does not work you should post some of the messages listed and/or post on the Fedora forums because your issues are distro specific

I tried yum groupinstall "KDE Software Compilation"

and got a plethora of messages.

I am not marking this thread closed...I expect somebody will have done what I want to do.
thanks

it might help to post some of the messages

....thanks....
I did
yum groupinstall kde showed (I guess) no errors..many .messages "already installed"

I must presume kde is there somewhere

su -
yum install switchdesk
yum install switchdesk-gui ......no errors

switchdesk kde .....no errors

rebooted ...just in case I didn't miss anything

logged in and got gnome again

running switchdesk-gui did NOTHING

yum install @"KDE Software Compilation" yielded:

yum install @"KDE Software Compilation"
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
You need to be root to perform this command.
[qt4user@lmkiii ~]$ su -
Password:
[root@lmkiii ~]# yum install @"KDE Software Compilation"
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Package kdebase-workspace-4.7.4-5.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package kdebase-runtime-4.7.4-2.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 6:kdelibs-4.7.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package kdm-4.7.4-5.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package xorg-x11-apps-7.6-2.fc15.i686 already installed and latest version
Package matching scribus-1.3.9-6.fc16.i686 already installed. Checking for update.
Package dejavu-serif-fonts-2.33-1.fc16.noarch already installed and latest version
Package 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-pptp-0.9-0.67.20111203git.nm09.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0.67.20111203git.nm09.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package oxygen-gtk-1.1.6-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package krusader-2.4.0-0.1.beta1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package digikam-2.4.1-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-vpnc-0.9-0.67.20111203git.nm09.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package dejavu-sans-mono-fonts-2.33-1.fc16.noarch already installed and latest version
Package dejavu-sans-fonts-2.33-1.fc16.noarch already installed and latest version
Package bluedevil-1.2.2-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package kamoso-2.0.2-2.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package konversation-1.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 7:kdegraphics-4.7.4-1.fc16.noarch already installed and latest version
Package xsettings-kde-0.12.2-2.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package cagibi-0.2.0-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package system-config-services-0.101.7-1.fc16.noarch already installed and latest version
Package kipi-plugins-2.4.1-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package abrt-desktop-2.0.7-2.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package kcm_touchpad-0.3.1-6.fc15.i686 already installed and latest version
Package plasma-scriptengine-python-4.7.4-5.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 6:kdeutils-printer-applet-4.7.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 7:kdepim-4.7.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 6:kdebase-4.7.4-2.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 6:kdemultimedia-kmix-4.7.4-2.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package cups-pk-helper-0.1.3-3.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package xterm-271-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package apper-0.7.1-0.4.20111021.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 1:kde-plasma-networkmanagement-openvpn-0.9-0.67.20111203git.nm09.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 6:kdegames-4.7.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 6:kdeutils-4.7.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package ktorrent-4.1.3-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 2honon-backend-gstreamer-4.5.90-3.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 6:kdemultimedia-juk-4.7.4-2.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package system-config-date-1.9.67-1.fc16.noarch already installed and latest version
Package kcm-gtk-0.5.3-7.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 7:system-config-printer-kde-4.7.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 7:kdenetwork-4.7.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package system-config-firewall-1.2.29-4.fc16.noarch already installed and latest version
Package kdeplasma-addons-4.7.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 6:kdemultimedia-kscd-4.7.4-2.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package ksshaskpass-0.5.3-2.fc15.i686 already installed and latest version
Package amarok-2.5.0-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 6:kdemultimedia-dragonplayer-4.7.4-2.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 1:kdeaccessibility-4.7.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package kwebkitpart-1.2-0.2.20111030.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package konq-plugins-4.6.1-1.fc15.i686 is obsoleted by 6:kdebase-4.7.4-2.fc16.i686 which is already installed
Package 1:k3b-2.0.2-5.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package kdeartwork-screensavers-4.7.4-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.7-14.fc16.noarch already installed and latest version
Package pinentry-qt-0.8.1-4.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package ibus-qt-1.3.1-5.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.30-5.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package 1:libreoffice-kde-3.4.4.2-6.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Package imsettings-qt-1.2.6-1.fc16.i686 already installed and latest version
Warning: Group kde-desktop does not have any packages.
Nothing to do

Guess the question boils down to

If I have kde installed, how do I start KDE

Well, a more radical way would be to uninstall gdm so that kdm starts by default

Seriously, feodora should have a way of being told which login manager to load as soon as X starts. Not having used an rpm based distro for donkeys' years I wouldn't know, though.

Anyway, that should give you enough to go on and use google to good effect

I assume the login screen is GDM, on this screen at the bottom left should be an "options" button, does clicking options open a list including KDE that can be selected?

if not as root run: init 3
this should switch you to a command line terminal session, login and as root and type: kdm
the KDM login screen should have a "session type" button, click it and select "kde"

have you seen this http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE

from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE

Add the following line to /etc/sysconfig/desktop:

/etc/sysconfig does not exist

DESKTOP="KDE"

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If this file already contains a DESKTOP entry, you must replace that entry.

To make KDM the default display manager, add the following line to /etc/sysconfig/desktop:

DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE"

yum install switchdesk
or
yum install switchdesk-gui both work

execution does nothing

solved by me

at login, a password dialog appears and there is a sessions pop down list

select kde or whatever

BTW kde has a desktop switch so Gnome must have one

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su

enter the password root

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yum groupinstall "KDE Software Compilation"

confirm "y"
installed 327 packages
I have Fedora 17 x64 is now KDE