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"Filter bar"/"Directory filter" missing on konqueror

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I don't know if it's a widely used feature, as far as I know it does not show by default.


It's a tiny search field, like those some web-browsers have beside the address bar (or "used to have", as these days often the address bar has the same function), but instead of searching the web, it just filters instantly the files being displayed.

That was one of the features I liked the most about konqueror (as a file manager), but it disappeared after my last upgrade (of whatever debian packages were upgraded, some kde-related, but perhaps not konqueror itself).

Is it a mainstream change, or perhaps a debian-specific bug? Or perhaps, some different "syntax"/label name on konqueror.rc?

The konqueror.rc does not appear to have changed, it still had "<Action name="findfile"/>" (which is what I suppose is the instant filter), but it does not show. On the "extensions" menu there's still the "directory filter" shown as enabled.


I just checked, and it still exists on Dolphin (which I never really use at all, a well configured konqueror is unbeatable as a file manager), I guess it's a hint that it's possible to have it back on konqueror through some configuration change, but I'm not sure. (just tried to add the respective xml tag from dolphin to konqueror, but it didn't work)


Good to know that the "find-like" (recursive) search by "control f" is back though. Not that it's exactly a "replacement", but I was missing that too.
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If you compare the contents of Dolphin *ui.rc file with Konqueror's you will likely be able to determine the element you need to add into Konqueror's file to get it shown there.


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I tried that, but unless I've missed the real thing (which then must go by a more obscure name), it does not work. Which makes some sense I guess, they're probably different "things" that serve the same function. As this function appears in both file managers with a reasonable different aspect, and even some different features (such as, there's the file type filter on konqueor, absent on dolphin, and the file/dir name search is case-insensitive on dolphin, and sensitive on konqueror).

I believe the tags are:



<Action name="findfile" /> -- the original in konqueror

<Action name="show_filter_bar"/> -- the one I found on dolphin


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I've just found some list discussion whose subject is "dir filter has gone missing in 4.7". That must be it then. I'll see if I report a bug or something, if that isn't fixed in 4.8 already.
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Can anyone tell me if it's back on konqueror already? It does not show on mine (Debian's KDE 4.8 by now), but perhaps there's a new "tag" code for the rc config or something. It does not show on the "configure toolbars" options.
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I have investigated the sources, and it appears that commit 13528205298c1275b82368d2617e0bcfe8ac5efa adjusted the directory filter plugin. This removed the "Filter bar" saying it needed to be implemented directly in applications (Dolphin & Konqueror) themselves. Unfortunately it seems that it has only been implemented in Dolphin.


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I've seen that a while ago. I was wondering if that might already have been fixed in another distribution or something, like having just the "plug in" from an older version. But it does not seem to be a plugin in the ordinary sense. The "snapshot" release seems to be the same I'm using and it still has it broken.

I don't understand the logic behind severing an application's functionality to eventually restore it in a "proper" way, rather than first coming up with the "proper" way, and then simultaneously removing the "wrong" way that was still better than no functionality at all. I don't even like to say that, it sounds somewhat like a conspiracy theory, but it just feels like the developers are sabotaging konqueror in order to eventually ditch it altogether and force everyone to use the new pet, dolphin. Whose original creation is somewhat hard to understand in the first place, you have a fully functional file manager, and then decide to start from scratch, nearly abandoning the operational one. If the intent is to have separated applications for web and file management, it seems also more logical* to have it split in two forks, one with the web-capabilities stripped off, the other with the file management capabilities stripped off, each losing the least functionality as possible.

Sorry for the rant. I just like konqueror so much as a FM, but some recent updates have gravely crippled it. You get used to a really perfect file manager and then, without expecting it, there's some rather annoying malfunctions/losses of functionality, and now you see yourself forced to open several windows with different applications in order to to the same thing you'd do rather easily with the previous version.


* in a layman's, non-programmer perspective, anyway.
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In regards to this filter bar, please file a bug report at bugs.kde.org regarding this.


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@the dsc
Sorry for waking up that old thread, but did you file a bug about that missing feature ?
If yes, I'd like to vote for it !
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I don't really use Konqueror as a FM, but here, with latest master - what will be 4.11, the filter bar can be enabled with Ctrl+Shift+I, or, Tools > Show Filter Bar
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Great news, thanks !
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I'm not sure I've ever filled a bug report or feature request elsewhere (probably not), but the functionality is currently restored even on KDE 4.10.5 (Debian testing, perhaps as of today).

At first I thought it wasn't, as there's no such option/"thing" on the regular configuration of toolbars, but I just checked and "tools → show filter bar", makes it appear!

That's really great, the only thing was missing from KFM. Every now and then I had to search more slowly/carefully on the list, or use the extension filters, or even just open the folder on dolphin just to use the instant filter. Funny how we become (or perhaps just me) so dependent of some features once we get used to them. I find that any other file manager is nearly unbearable.
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hermantowawan wrote:that is a bug, check this
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279281

are you sure that is a bug?


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Recently, I restored my system from a back-up of several months ago. The settings for Konqueror were missing the filter bar. I remembered that I didn't "fix" having the filter bar appear until after that back-up. Searching for a solution and retracing my steps, these are the steps I took today:

  1. Follow this link, download and install the plug-in
  2. Once installed, open Konqueror. If Konqueror is already open, close all open windows. When opening/re-opening Konqueror ensure it is without any Sessions parameters that can be called from the command-line or as parameters in the .desktop file
  3. Click on the menu, Tools. "Show Filter Bar" should appear. If it does not, follow these extra couple of steps:
  4. From the menu choose Settings -> Load View Profile -> File Management or Midnight Commander.
  5. From the menu choose Tools. "Show Filter Bar" should appear.
It makes sense this feature would only appear if one is using Konqueror in a file management mode. It's simply one of those undocumented "hidden" things to find and initiate when thinking like a programmer. Enjoy!


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