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orbmiser
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Getting back missing system tray entries?
Yep so easy to delete them. No way to get them back?
As had a klipper entry but no more and thought to have it run in systray.

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Anyway to recover back to a default?
Why are they so easy to delete with no way of adding them back?

Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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orbmiser wrote:Getting back missing system tray entries?
Yep so easy to delete them. No way to get them back?
As had a klipper entry but no more and thought to have it run in systray.

Klipper is an application.
You have to run it so that it shows its tray icon.

How did you "delete" it? If you quit it, it should ask you whether you want to start it automatically at login or not.

What else are you missing?
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Yes I know it has to be run. The confusion is I don't remember how I deleted it in particular distro. As many have it running in default install. And yes I ran it and it's there just no way to have it autostart unless I add it to autostart programs section.

Might just be me with only a dozen or so active neurons left :-)

As Volume & Network do not have a autostart setup in autostart programs section of system settings.
And thought that is the case also from Klipper? As there is no setting for it to autostart in klipper settings or asking when quiting it.

I remember deleting some of the entries in entries in system tray settings. Just don't know the impact of deleting them are? And impacts their auto-starting or not?

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orbmiser wrote:Yes I know it has to be run. The confusion is I don't remember how I deleted it in particular distro. As many have it running in default install. And yes I ran it and it's there just no way to have it autostart unless I add it to autostart programs section.

As I said, it should ask you whether you want to run it on login or not if you quit it. At least it does here.
So try to quit it (right-click on the system tray icon).

As Volume & Network do not have a autostart setup in autostart programs section of system settings.

No. Network is a plasmoid (widget, applet), no application. You can enable/disable it in the systemtray settings that you showed in your first post, and it is in fact listed on the screenshot you posted.

The volume control is an application (kmix), here the same applies as with klipper.

And thought that is the case also from Klipper? As there is no setting for it to autostart in klipper settings or asking when quiting it.

Well, normally klipper (and kmix for that matter) should be in the system's autostart folder, /usr/share/autostart/ here on my system.
So they normally get started in any way, unless you disabled it in their config.

So maybe try to remove ~/.kde/share/config/klipperrc (and ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc), they should be started automatically again.
Depending on your distribution, this might be in ~/.kde4 instead.

OTOH, KDE restarts applications that are running on logout/shutdown again at login. So if you do not quit them, they should be started anyway.
This behaviour can be configured in Systemsettings->Startup and Shutdown->Session Management.
But applications can disable session management. Probably kmix and klipper do that, as they are autostarted anyway.

I remember deleting some of the entries in entries in system tray settings. Just don't know the impact of deleting them are? And impacts their auto-starting or not?

Do you mean under "Entries" or under "Display"->Additional Elements?
The first one just specifies whether a specific icon should be "Always shown", "Automatic" (only shown if it requires attention), or "Hidden".
The second one only enables/disables systemtray widgets, no applications as I wrote already.
Both do not "delete" anything.

If you do "delete" an entry in "Entries", that just means that there's no explicit setting for it (i.e. pressing that "delete" button just means "forget its setting"), so the default "Automatic" will be used when it is started the next time (this will create an entry again which you could configure to be "Always visible" or "Hidden")
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Thanks for the help and all the explicit answers. As helps me learn which I appreciate!
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