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Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:06 am
openSUSE 13.2 KDE 4.11 I can preview all file icons except for video files. How can I make it view video files as well?
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Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:34 am
klausp wrote:openSUSE 13.2 KDE 4.11 I can preview all file icons except for video files. How can I make it view video files as well?

What kind of preview do you mean?

For the icons, install kde-mplayer-thumbnailer or kffmpegthumbnailer.

If you want to view the videos in the information side panel, you need to use the phonon-backend-gstreamer (should be the default), and have the corresponding gstreamer (0_10) plugins installed (from Packman for full codec support). This also applies to the kde-mplayer-thumbnailer if you use the default Phonon backend.
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:55 am
wolfi323 wrote:
klausp wrote:openSUSE 13.2 KDE 4.11 I can preview all file icons except for video files. How can I make it view video files as well?

What kind of preview do you mean?

For the icons, install kde-mplayer-thumbnailer or kffmpegthumbnailer.

If you want to view the videos in the information side panel, you need to use the phonon-backend-gstreamer (should be the default), and have the corresponding gstreamer (0_10) plugins installed (from Packman for full codec support). This also applies to the kde-mplayer-thumbnailer if you use the default Phonon backend.

Yes, it's for the icons. I have kde-mplayer-thumbnailer but doesn't work on video icons. It only works on other icons.
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:54 am
dolphin being KF5 but the thumbnailer SC4?
what's "dolphin --version" and which version of the thumbnailer does yast list?
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:17 am
klausp wrote:Yes, it's for the icons. I have kde-mplayer-thumbnailer but doesn't work on video icons. It only works on other icons.

kde-mplayer-thumbs works fine here. Have you actually enabled it in Dolphin's preview settings? (Settings->Configure Dolphin->General->Previews)

And do you have the corresponding gstreamer-plugins from Packman installed?
In particular, with gstreamer-plugins-bad-orig-addon, gstreamer-plugins-ugly-orig-addon, and gstreamer-plugins-libav practically all videos should work.

Don't use the VLC phonon backend that's included in openSUSE 13.2, there are no restricted codecs available for vlc 2.1.5 and it won't work with later versions.

Another option would be to run "mplayerthumbsconfig" and switch the backend to "MPlayer". You need to have "MPlayer" installed then of course (also available on Packman).

And in any case, you absolutely need the ffmpeg packages from Packman, but that should be ok if you can *watch* your videos.

But as luebking indicated, kde-mplayer-thumbnailer will only work with the KDE4 version of dolphin (<= 15.04). For the KF5 based version (15.08.x) you'd need to install something else, ffmpegthumbs from KDE:Applications should work. The one from KDE:Extra is still KDE4 based though, so make sure that it has version 15.08.x in that case.
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:42 pm
luebking wrote:dolphin being KF5 but the thumbnailer SC4?
what's "dolphin --version" and which version of the thumbnailer does yast list?

Dolphin 15.04 I don't know which thumbnailer. How do I find which thumbnailer I have?
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:52 pm
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klausp wrote:Yes, it's for the icons. I have kde-mplayer-thumbnailer but doesn't work on video icons. It only works on other icons.

kde-mplayer-thumbs works fine here. Have you actually enabled it in Dolphin's preview settings? (Settings->Configure Dolphin->General->Previews)

And do you have the corresponding gstreamer-plugins from Packman installed?
In particular, with gstreamer-plugins-bad-orig-addon, gstreamer-plugins-ugly-orig-addon, and gstreamer-plugins-libav practically all videos should work.

Don't use the VLC phonon backend that's included in openSUSE 13.2, there are no restricted codecs available for vlc 2.1.5 and it won't work with later versions.

Another option would be to run "mplayerthumbsconfig" and switch the backend to "MPlayer". You need to have "MPlayer" installed then of course (also available on Packman).

And in any case, you absolutely need the ffmpeg packages from Packman, but that should be ok if you can *watch* your videos.

But as luebking indicated, kde-mplayer-thumbnailer will only work with the KDE4 version of dolphin (<= 15.04). For the KF5 based version (15.08.x) you'd need to install something else, ffmpegthumbs from KDE:Applications should work. The one from KDE:Extra is still KDE4 based though, so make sure that it has version 15.08.x in that case.
I have KDE 4.14.9 Dolphin 15.04. I don't use VLC, I use Kaffeine. I searched for ffmpegthumbs in the software manager and there is no listing for it. Any ideas how to resolve this?
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:08 pm
klausp wrote:
luebking wrote:dolphin being KF5 but the thumbnailer SC4?
what's "dolphin --version" and which version of the thumbnailer does yast list?

Dolphin 15.04 I don't know which thumbnailer. How do I find which thumbnailer I have?

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rpm -q kde-mplayer-thumbnailer


But AFAIK there is no KF5 version of that one yet, so it should be ok.

klausp wrote:I don't use VLC, I use Kaffeine.

That's irrelevant.
But if Kaffeine (which is just a frontend to Xine) works, the ffmpeg installation should be ok.

I searched for ffmpegthumbs in the software manager and there is no listing for it. Any ideas how to resolve this?

It's available in the KDE:Extra repo, and there's kffmpegthumbnailer in Packman.

But you said you have kde-mplayer-thumbnailer installed, that's the one I am using and it works fine.
But you have to enable it in dolphin's settings, as mentioned...

And again, despite its name it uses Phonon by default, so you need the necessary codecs for your Phonon backend (gstreamer is the default).
You can also switch to MPlayer in kde-mplayer-thumbnailer's settings (run "mplayerthumbsconfig").
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:43 pm
I have kde-mplayer-thumbnailer-14.12.3-16.1.x86_64
kffmpegthumbnailer magically appeared so I installed it. The thumbnailer is enabled. Still doesn't work on videos. I will try a reboot now to see if that works.
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:48 pm
Still doesn't work. Looks like the is a tough one to resolve.
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Re: Preview files  Topic is solved

Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:19 pm
klausp wrote:I have kde-mplayer-thumbnailer-14.12.3-16.1.x86_64

The exact same version does work fine here on my openSUSE 13.2 system.

What have you set as backend in "mplayerthumbsconfig"?
If it's MPlayer, you obviously need to install MPlayer too.
For Phonon, Phonon (KDE's multimedia framework) has to be able to play the files. Does it work if you open them with Dragonplayer? That one uses Phonon too.

And what Phonon backend are you actually using?
See Systemsettings (or Configure Desktop)->Multimedia->Audio and Video->Backend

kffmpegthumbnailer magically appeared so I installed it. The thumbnailer is enabled. Still doesn't work on videos. I will try a reboot now to see if that works.

Well, I haven't tried that one, so I don't know whether it works.
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:46 pm
Thanks. The problem is fixed. I had kde-mplayer-thumbnailer installed but I didn't know that I needed to install MPlayer too. By the way, what is backend?
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Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:15 am
klausp wrote:Thanks. The problem is fixed. I had kde-mplayer-thumbnailer installed but I didn't know that I needed to install MPlayer too.

You only need MPlayer if the backend is set to "MPlayer". "Phonon" should work out of the box, and is actually the default on openSUSE because MPlayer is not included in the distribution itself.

By the way, what is backend?

A "backend" is the software that is used for doing the actual work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_and_back_ends
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Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:37 pm
wolfi323 wrote:
klausp wrote:Thanks. The problem is fixed. I had kde-mplayer-thumbnailer installed but I didn't know that I needed to install MPlayer too.

You only need MPlayer if the backend is set to "MPlayer". "Phonon" should work out of the box, and is actually the default on openSUSE because MPlayer is not included in the distribution itself.

By the way, what is backend?

A "backend" is the software that is used for doing the actual work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_and_back_ends

OK. Thanks.


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