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Hello

I hope someone can help me because even after an intense search on the Internet I haven't found anything on the internet which could help me with my problem.

On my pc running kde 4.x I have the problem that I have only two entries in the scope area. (Application Manuals and UNIX manual pages).

htdig seem to work correctly (search index building works).

But I have addtional documentation installed e.g. susehelp or selfhtml which just does'nt apear in the scope area and therefore is not indexed and not searchable in kde helpcenter.

I already uninstalled and re-installed htdig. I checked the ~/.kde4/share/apps/khelpcenter/index here all the books I installed are listed (e.g. selfhtml)

Does anybody have an idea how I can get the addtionally installed documentation into the scope area?

Best thanks in advance for your help.

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Try running "kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental" with KHelpCenter closed and see if it is still broken.


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hello

first of all thats for taking the time to answer.

unfortunately
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kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental
did not help. It performed and completed.

After opening khelpcenter still just two entries in the scope.

Have you got annother idea what I could try?

best thanks in advance.
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If you create a new user, does it occur there?


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Hello bcooksley

thanks for the continuing support.

I have created a new test user.
then direktly went zu the helpcenter. In scope there was one entry the unix manuals, then after building the index there was the second entry. Application manuals. I have posted the output of the initizial index building here http://nopaste.info/4e7f4d614a.html
It gives a "Finished successfully." (line 374). I've seen some warnings (line 6) and errors (line 151, 233, 358) in the output but I don't know if they are related to the problem I face.

So the short answer to your question unfortunatly is "yes", it occurs with new user as well.

Is there something else I can try?

Best thanks in advance
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Can you please ensure that the kio_info and kio_man slaves have been installed? They should be part of KDELibs or KDEBase-Runtime, which are needed for KDE to operate correctly.


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kio_info and kio_man slaves have been installed? They should be part of KDELibs or KDEBase-Runtime,


I really do not know how to check if kio_info and kio_man slaves is installed correctly.
But since I haven't had any errors in my updates I persume they are installed correctly, I have updated kde serveral times (from orig. 4.1.3 which was issued with opensuse 11.1 I had updated to 4.2.x then to 4.3.x). And I have not had error messages when running
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zypper verify
after update.
These are the packages I have installed on my system.

i | kdelibs4 | package | 4.3.1-163.4 | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | kdebase4-runtime | package | 4.3.1-141.3 | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i | kdebase4-runtime-branding-upstream | package | 4.3.1-141.3 | x86_64 | (System Packages)


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Can you check in YaST, and make sure the priority for the KDE:/ repositories is set to a value of 10, and is recently refreshed, then ensure that all KDE packages are up to date?


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I have checked and changed priority to 10 for the following repros

http://download.opensuse.org/repositori ... y_Desktop/
http://download.opensuse.org/repositori ... SUSE_11.1/

after that I did a "zypper up" the update completed succssessfully.
I did a restart of the pc and check if now more documentation is available in scope but it wasn't.

thanks for the continuing support.


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Since in addtion to my PC I have an laptop and a spare hdd for it I did a netinstall of suse 11.1 and checked the scope. There was only unix manuals in it. Then I installed the susehelp packages. then ran susehelp again tried to build the index on application manuals, as expected the it compained about missing htdig, which I installed. Then I could succsessfuly create the index for the applications manuals. After that the entry application manual was listed in scope so again I only had a total of two entries in the scope list.

Then I added the kde factory repositories and did a "zypper dup" to 4.3. No change still only two entries.

So only having two entries seems to be default behavoir for opensuse 11.1 with kde 4.x.

under http://img2.myimg.de/scopekhelpcenter3510ce506.png you will find a scope view of kde 3.5.x and under http://img2.myimg.de/khelpcenter43106d5b.png of my kde 4.3.x

As you can see there are much more entries in the kde 3.5 version.

How can I get the same in kde 4.x?


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Can you check to see if there are any KDE documentation packages that need to be installed?


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Hello bcooksley,

Here http://nopaste.info/7144f37ae4.html you can find a list of my installed documentation packages (kde 4.3.). As you can see there are kdelibs docs, susehelp docs programm docs installed and docs packages like selflinux.

So when comparing this to my kde 3.5.10 installation (docu. package list can be found here http://nopaste.info/e86a010a38.html), to my unstanding there is no relevant difference. Hence I think this is not the source of the problem.

What do you think?

Best Regards.

linux_padawan


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Everything seems fine. If you create a new user and it does not function correctly there, please report a bug at the openSUSE bugzilla.


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Hello bcooksley,

thanks for continuously answering my posts.

As advised I opened a bug report at opensuse which can be found here https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538841

Everybody having the same problem should vote on it. ;-)

If I get a feedback from the opensuse bugzilla guys I will post it here.


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