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Netbook 4.4 - no close/restore/maximise/minimise icons

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I upgraded to SC 4.4 from the backports. At first the screen would fade to black after login but that was fixed by installing plasma-desktop and then switching to the netbook form factor.

However I now find that by default all applications open in full-screen instead of in their own window and are missing the usual maximise/minimise/close/restore icons. So, for example, once I've opened the System Settings window there's no way of closing it.

For the life of me I can't find a way round this, can anyone help?


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Can you please check that KWin is running?


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Do you mean you have no titlebars or window borders?
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bcooksley wrote:Can you please check that KWin is running?


Yes, I've just checked and it's running.

jimbo99 wrote:Do you mean you have no titlebars or window borders?


Exactly that - maximised with no titlebars/borders etc. I just ran System Activity from krunner to check for KWin and it is being displayed full-screen with no way of closing it!


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As far as I know this is the intended behavior. Are you sure you want to use Plasma Netbook?

Unfortunately I don't know how to disable this. Does it only apply to maximized windows? You can try this by pressing Alt-F3 -> uncheck "Maximize" (when the focus is on a maximized window).


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Hans wrote:As far as I know this is the intended behavior. Are you sure you want to use Plasma Netbook?


Yes, this particular installation is on a netbook.

This wasn't a problem with the netbook remix until I upgraded to 4.4, before the upgrade each application would occupy the full screen AND provide the titlebar. However you are right that Alt-F3 allows windows to be restored so thanks for that. I still think it might be useful to have some control over this behaviour.


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There probably is, it's just that I don't know about it. If you un-maximize a window, does it get its window border back automatically? If not, take a look in System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Window-Specific and see if you can find any rules to remove the border (this is how I do on my netbook, where I use regular Plasma Desktop).


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OK Alt-F3 is really useful. Plus when a window is maximised full-screen with no titlebar I find that moving the mouse to the top of the screen shows a control to close or adjust window size. This works perfectly, I'm sure I wasn't seeing this before but I could be wrong! Behaviour of 4.4 on the netbook was a bit flakey at first but after a few boots things appear to have settled down.

Again, thanks for the help.


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It was kind of annoying at first, but I've grown kinda used to it; it does make me give my full attention to an app, and the UI prevents me from killing my tiny netbook by, in a psychological sense, making it difficult to run multiple windows open. Very useful.


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Good that you bumped this topic, since I know the answer now. :)

Just follow the instructions here but use "BorderlessMaximizedWindows=false" instead:
http://hanschen.org/2010/04/01/hide-win ... d-windows/


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Ah, thank you!

Mind you, editing by text...might want a tickbox for that instead! :P


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