Unfortunately, I experience many problems with the recent kubuntu packages (kde 4.4.1, but it was the same in 4.4.0), and I would like to find out if this is a problem with kde 4.4.1 in general or a kubuntu problem.

To make sure that these are not related to incompatible config files, I created a new user. Still, there are the following problems:

- some plasmoids appear twice, on top of each other, for example this folder view on the desktop, or the device notifier.

- krunner crashes all the time for no apparant reason.

- the systray is broken. all the programs which are supposed to be accessible via the systray when minimized, like amarok, kontact, ktorrent, or even the knetworkmanager, do not show up in the systray and are therefore not accessible at all.

- when I enable nepomuk, my system becomes extremely slow and nepomuk/vrituoso eat up most of my cpu power.


These are the most severe problems I encounter at the moment. With kde 4.3, I didn't experience these issues.

So I would like to ask you fellow kubuntu users, and users of other distributions, if you experience these problems as well or if there are known workarounds to get rid of them.

Zsaja

Hi !

kubuntu ppa are ok for me. no bugs...

try

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sudo apt-get install -f

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sudo dpkg --configure -a

I'm using the 4.4.0 packages and also notice krunner crashes a lot. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce the crashes consistently. Sometimes it happens after hitting 'esc' while the krunner dialog is active. Sometimes I try to launch krunner and it simply won't appear.

Also I get 100% cpu usage if I try to enable Strigi file indexing. I'm using a 1.6 GHz celeron with 512 Mb ram, so I suspect my machine just doesn't have the power needed to make it work.

Desktop effects and many plasma widgets work surprisingly well given the old hardware.

There are many widgets that give error messages (eg. facebook) or crash the whole plasma desktop (eg. smooth tasks). I'm also curious how many of these issues are specific to Kubuntu packages.

Cheers

I now discovered that the annoying bug of putting all kind of plasma widgets twice, on top of each other, also applied to the task bar. So there were two taskbars, and after I removed the top one, the hidden became visible and had a systray with the missing icons

For krunner, I switched of the nepomuksearch runner, and now it crashes less frequently.

Yes. The KDE 4.4.1 update is really bad here too. PolicyKit is totally broken, my RAM usage has more than doubled and now and then, some processes run amok.

I am now using 4.4.0 again, and hope that 4.4.2 will be better.

KFreak wrote:Yes. The KDE 4.4.1 update is really bad here too. PolicyKit is totally broken, my RAM usage has more than doubled and now and then, some processes run amok.

I am now using 4.4.0 again, and hope that 4.4.2 will be better.

PolicyKit is broken here too: it simply refuses to ask for my password, hence give me permission to do any administrative task. I have to use sudo in a command line to do anything. Infuriating!

I do confirm. I have had a lot of problems updating from KDE 4.3 to KDE 4.4 and then to 4.4.1. Kde is now quite buggy on many points. But I do think that it is all due to bad updates. I am planning a fresh install when 10.04 comes out. I have switched from openSUSE to Kubuntu so as to be able to upgrade without formatting but in fact I don't think apt-get dist-upgrade is a safe way to upgrade a system. Hope ths point will improve with the new Kubuntu project.

Guilo wrote:I have switched from openSUSE to Kubuntu so as to be able to upgrade without formatting but in fact I don't think apt-get dist-upgrade is a safe way to upgrade a system.

I've been updating Kubuntu without formatting for almost three years now, haven't had a problem yet. Though I do have lots of additional/old softwares installed which have been replaced now and am thinking about a clean install one of these days.

no problem here, try to create new user...

Madman wrote:PolicyKit is broken here too: it simply refuses to ask for my password, hence give me permission to do any administrative task. I have to use sudo in a command line to do anything. Infuriating!

This solves the problem temporarily:

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sudo apt-get install policykit-gnome

It´s ugly but it works, until the problem is solved. Here is a bug report for the issue:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... bug/353278

For me KDE 4.4.1 (from Kubuntu PPA backports) is even less stable than 4.4.0 on Kubuntu 9.10. I encounter many plasma-desktop crashes (after I log in or enable/disable desktop effects plasma-desktop crashes 1-3 times and then it works ok). I'm using plasmoids: rssnow, system monitor (temp, cpu, network), calculator, opendesktop, opendesktop activities. Plasma is stable after I login to the time when I put my password for kwallet for plasmoids (opendesktop, opendesktop activities). When I write the password and accept then the plasma-desktop crashing begins...

And second problem - Kontact/Kmail - I use IMAP account and I experience Kontact/Kmail crash on 1/3 emails viewing.

Are these bugs known and will be fixed by KDE 4.4.2 or should I report them?
I've get rid of problems with Akonadi, Nepomuk, Strigi, Soprano, Virtuoso and that looks OK for me but these plasma-desktop and Kontact crashes are very iritating - I've dropped Kontact for most of my mail usage and now I use only Alpine for temporary workaround (I've used it before, too but for now it's my main mail client).

Try removing the openDesktop widgets, which may be causing the crashing.